Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it
It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way
Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we’re along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink
Hey man, I downvoted but i wanted to tell you why. My family has multiple alcoholics. I’m not judging you at all, but i a wanted to encourage you to find other coping mechanism. Alcohol is very dangerous, especially when used that way. Be safe, bro.
I like heroin personally.
I understand, more of an AUD dude and its welm-managed, especially since ive been low sugar
I downvoted you because I think you’re judging just a little. Not everyone is an addict.
I think they’re just pointing out that using alcohol as coping mechanism can easily cause alcoholism, and therefore this post is really dangerous advice for some people.
Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.
Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn’t drinking strategically.
Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…
You can abuse alcohol to negative effect without drinking every day. Binge drinking and drinking to dull your emotions are other forms of alcohol abuse beyond just the classic portrayal of a “drinks all day or he gets the shakes” alcoholic. Maybe OP is doing this very occasionally and it’s not a problem for them. But if you’re using alcohol to as a coping mechanism with any sort of frequency, it’s probably not a healthy situation.
Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.
Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don’t understand why.
Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?
Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone’s mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.
Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.
Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.
well put.
I downvoted you because i think you’re projecting your judgmental mindset onto others.
Spoken like someone who hasn’t seen how easy it is to ruin a life with alcohol.
Like I said. Judging, and projecting your problems onto everyone else.
No, but I don’t drink strategically. If you need to have a hard conversation or do something difficult, you should probably have your whole brain in use.
PSA to the youngs who see Box of Wine and think QUANTITY.
Box of wine actually stays best longest because the tapped bag doesn’t take in O2 and start to sour. So box wine is usually pretty par for paced domestic drinking and cooking.
I’m sure someone has smashed the box, but they also serve people who are more likely to leave the last glass in the bottle too long.
Bought Box does not mean Drank Box.
For conversations I need to have, I rehearse in my head and mutter quips to myself to prepare myself for all contingencies.
This isn’t so I will say these words to the person, but more that I’m convincing myself and arming my mouth when my brain wanders off as it is wont to do.
On the actual day, I drink a soothing tea and don’t say anything unless the uncomfortable topic is brought up. If people clock onto my calm confidence, they usually don’t instigate.
I’ve learned from early on that people prey only on those they perceive weak, but to pre-emptively strike is to invite ruin. So I prepare and stay quiet.
Beer would ruin that planning as I am a lightweight
Yes, I barely if ever drink alcohol. I’m not social and hate talking to people or crowds, I’m also pretty ND so I can’t fake or pretend I give a shit about what other people are talking.
Alcohol helps a lot, if I have to meet whoever and their friends and they’re asking me about work or how I would design an app that does blah blah I definitely need to be like 4 beers in to tolerate that conversation.
That being said I don’t drink for things like school presentations or other events that require me to speak, like conference stuff. I just bite the bullet and it sucks, but I’d rather be sober and speaking coherently than feeling like I am.
I know everyone in here’s saying no but I do. If I’m going to a social occasion I might have a drink beforehand; not much, just enough to feel it. I’m not the most comfortable in social situations and a beer can just take the edge off. I don’t get drunk or anything and I’d only do it if there’s going to be alcohol there anyway.
I also drink sometimes to help me sleep. I have ADHD and I struggle to switch my brain off. Sometimes I hit like 2am and if I think I need it I have a bottle of whisky downstairs that I’ll go and have a drink off. Again, just enough to feel it. I have pills and medicine that help me sleep, and they work also, but they leave me feeling groggy the next day. With a little whisky I don’t even feel it the next day and it seems to work just as well. I don’t do it too often, maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks.
Hmmm, may drink strategically to dodge rules like no self brought alcohol on the festival, or a way to feel the effect good enough before needing to run to the bus.
But to deal with drama? No that I’m taking fully in so I can learn from it if something similar happens again
Short answer… no. Long answer… Noooooooooooooooooooo
I do this every time I go visit my father. His wife is a crazy narcissistic loon and I just cannot fucking stand being around her, so I drink when I’m there because it’s the only way I can tolerate being around her. But my dad drinks with me, so I dunno, our relationship has been so strained and awkward for so long, I think we both do it to ease some of that tension.
I would never do this, because alcohilism runs in my family, and I’d be afraid to become dependend. That said, I know not everyone has the same risk to become an alcoholic, so if it helps and you can manage, do what you have to, life is hard enough as it is sometimes.
Yes, millions of people for thousands of years have done something like this. It’s called liquid courage for a reason. I used to give myself exact small doses of alcohol to loosen up my introversion before social situations. If your job depends on it, it’s basically a performance enhancer.
Not promoting alcoholism here, despite what I’m sure lots of comments will say. Personally, I barely drink at all anymore because it’s gotten really hard on my body. Just giving a different viewpoint. There’s so much addict pearl-clutching in here. Plenty of people can and do use drugs and alcohol responsibly. If you “don’t need” them, great. If responsible doses help you live better, great.
Given the fact that they said they need the equivalent of FOUR bottles of wine to have an uncomfortable conversation, it’s a red flag.
You’re right, many people can consume things in moderation, but when you see warning signs like that, warning them isn’t a form of pearl clutching so much as “dude, be careful.”
I mean, did they say they consumed a whole box of boxed wine? Or just that they bought one? Could have also been on of those cartons that is the equivalent of about 2 glasses.
Generally speaking, when I’ve seen someone speak about a box of wine, it’s the 3L one, not the smaller ones.
Yeah, I’m aware of these. I was speaking of the big boxes, not the ones like this.
I just hope that OP doesn’t go down the same ruinous path that I did. Compared to where I was in my fifteen year journey with Alcohol Use Disorder, I was at about year four. Where I would drink in order to relax and be able to socialize with others.
An over reliance on a substance to ease a social situation (no matter the reason), is a potential crossroads that can lead further down the path of abusing said substance.
I think most people wouldn’t be able to have ANY conversation after four whole bottles of wine. I certainly wouldn’t.
If they drank the whole damn thing that night, then agreed, that’s a red flag. OP didn’t say that though. Maybe they can clarify.
Not anymore after reading up on how bad alcohol is for us.
I mean, you could call it strategic, or you could call it relying on substances as a crutch to manage your emotions.
I’m not saying that’s always bad, necessarily. There is the school of thought that it’s just a tool, like in your edit. But, it’s important to remember it can become a habit.
Not exactly like that but I don’t drink very often but decide to before like state of the unions now.
These days i rarely drink but a glass of wine with some pasta now and again goes down a treat
