I can eat sushi, pizza, samosas, kebab (kabobs, döner or shawarmas depending on your frame of reference), gyoza/pot stickers/tortellone/pasteczki (or whatever), noodles/ramen/spaghetti, knödeln/kroppkakor and so on and so on. Leaving lots of cultures unsaid.

I can enjoy music, cringy cultural movies (animated and not), fun cirque sessions (even without animals being endangered), go to festivals for various cultures, enjoin then in our cultures of scouting, mountaineering, hiking and share my love of enjoying nature.

I can drive electric cars, communicate on Internet forums, keep in touch with new friends as well as loved ones across the world.

I would be in a much poorer world without you all.

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    Our blessed homeland vs. their barbarous wastes

    How dare you not pledge your undying allegiance to the spot of dirt that you were born on!??!?!?

  • @[email protected]
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    Besides all of that valid stuff, immigration is the only reason the US doesn’t have slowing/declining population numbers like many developed countries now have.

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      The irony is most Americans are descendants of immigrants.

      “You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

      What a godless country.

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    Some for me. So many cultures, languages and cuisines mixing. But in my case even im an immigrant but the plot twist is im european. Overheard someone talking about how bad immigrants are and they proceeded to say “but youre one of the good ones”. Only context you need to hear is im white.

    • @[email protected]
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      “Unser Jud’ ist eh gut.”

      That’s a sentence that was often used in Nazi Germany/Nazi Austria. It means “Our Jew is good anyway, [but the others are evil]”. It basically means that you keep believing the propaganda, even if the people you know don’t fit to the propaganda at all.

      Nowadays this sentence is used to satirize the statement you posted.

      • @[email protected]
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        “He’s one of the good ones,” is how people have always explained liking a minority that they know, while still being prejudiced against the rest of their race.

      • AItoothbrush
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        Good to know. It is exactly like this. Ive seen people say things like this while they had 5 friends who were from 5 different countries basically next to them. Its really sad when even some of the immigrants believe this shit.

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          Many immigrants think they can get on the good side of the xenophobes by becoming the “good” immigrants while putting the “bad” immigrants down.

          The problem with that tactic is that xenophobes and especially xenophobic laws don’t distinguish between “good” or “bad”.

          If immigrants badmouth other immigrants, the only thing that xenophobes take from that is “even the immigrants think immigrants are bad”.

          You see a lot of that happening in the USA, where frequently family members of MAGA voters are taken by ICE, because they aren’t going after the “bad” immigrants, but after immigrants, period. Even if their family voted for the people who are now taking them.

          And that’s the real take-away. When it comes to lawmaking, you can either be for immigrants or against them. There’s no nuance. Because lawmakers don’t put any in.

  • @[email protected]
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    dont let the fascist whoresons read this, they will frame you mentally deranged and a danger to their homogeneous society

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      Fuck their homogenous society, its total lack of art, its dog shit food, and its boring everything. Plus its queerphobia and intellectual stasis. Stillness is death. They have guns; they can get that for themselves any time they like.

      Plus I’m kind of autistic. People already look too much the same. If they stopped being different colors and sizes with different types of hair i would not be able to go outside.

  • @[email protected]
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    Looking back at the history of England. We have had wave after wave of immigrants/invaders. Each wave brought a period of tension. That period was followed by a period of innovation.

    The new people, with new views means old ideas are re-evaluated. New skill, flavours and modes of thought became part of our culture.

    Even our language improved. Part of English’s power is the level of nuance with word choice. A loft of that comes from melding multiple root languages in.

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      Well, by the look of this comment section there’s at least one who really needed to hear the message, but seemingly didn’t take it to heart.

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      I’ve seen a few anti-immigrant comments pop up around here that have been upvoted and they’ve made me pretty sad.

      This thread makes my immigrant ass happy though so thank y’all.

  • @[email protected]
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    It didn’t take long before they started deporting anyone and everyone. By no means just violent criminals. Horse shit.

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    Fun fact for you: All döner is kebab, but not all kebab is döner. Because döner is just a type of kebab (grilled meat on a stick). Which also means that shawarma’s status as kebab is questionable, as it’s usually sometimes roasted or pan fried, as far as I know.

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      Pan fried shawarma is something Im still trying to get used to. The Lebanese Shawarma places in Ottawa all stack the chicken on a stick rotisserie and it is cooked exactly like the lamb or beef kebabs, they then slice thin portions off of it just the same.

      It wasnt until I moved out west that I ever saw Shawarma done any other way, and everything out here has been disappointing by comparison.

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      The name shāwarmā in Arabic is a rendering of the term çevirme in Ottoman Turkish (چيويرمى [tʃeviɾˈme], lit. ‘turning; hence, roughly synonymous to döner in this context’), referring to rotisserie.>

      So maybe it depends whose version of shawarma you’ve had. All the ones I’ve seen so far (in different European countries) have been with rotisserie /doner kebab.

      Names seem interchangeable in many places, in my experience. When I was a kid the difference between kebab and shawarma used to be that one was in a bun and the other was a wrap, for some reason. The bun has been phased out, unfortunately, and now it’s only wraps everywhere.

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        Thanks for that etymology bit. I wonder why I never bothered to check, but it makes perfect sense, as I know Turkish.

        And yeah, I should have used “sometimes” not “usually”. Pan fried shawarma is a thing, while döner isn’t, so depending on the way it’s prepared it may technically not be kebab.

        Btw, kebab doesn’t need to involve any bread element whatsoever. In fact, in places that use the term natively, it usually isn’t. Kebab is just any grilled meat on a stick, and often is just the equivalent of BBQ.

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    Completely agree! The concept of Culinary Diplomacy is actually practiced by a few countries around the world and is often implemented in partnership with emigrants from those nations. South Korea did this with their “Kimchi Diplomacy” back in 2009 and it was considered very successful. It is one of the reasons Korean food became so popular here in the U.S. around then. Culinary Diplomacy

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      I think the Chinese government also supported the Chinese restraunt industry similarly in the US

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        I think Chinese food spread was more organic, they helped each other immigrate, shared recipes, and acted almost like a franchise in how new restaurants were chosen in unserved areas and given a general playbook

        And then the Thai government did it more formally, Korean culinary movement copied the success (or maybe the other way around)

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            Yup, and we have so many different regional cuisines but you’ll mostly just find north Indian and a little bit of south Indian restaurants in the US

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            I mean… They kind of didn’t though

            In major cities, sure. Even smaller ones will have Indian places. But they’re proportional to the amount of Indians in an area

            Because there’s a big difference… Everyone can go to a Chinese restaurant and confidently order. Everyone knows what sushi is, even if some people don’t eat it. Thai foods are less known, but the menus are very Americanized, so you go once and you get the idea

            I know the good Indian restaurant back home, but I only know the dishes by color. Lots of naan and wet dishes… They were good, but I couldn’t tell you what they were. And if the sign says Indian food, I don’t know what they serve. So I’ve only been to the one place

            Vindaloo and curry? That is everywhere, but I’ve never had an Indian version of it. The British spread vindaloo and curry spread itself

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      Hollywood and the anime industry have done much the same - helping people around the world normalize the feeling of living in their home societies.

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        Seriously, HMart is the shit. The produce is generally WAY better than you can get at “normal” markets - largely because their stock actually gets cleaned out and turned over on a regular basis.

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          yea our parents go to it alot, we have jagalchi recently opened up, but i think its to pricey, for its limited selections.

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    I live in London and immigrants have made it the best place in Europe for trying all the food 😍 I’ve been saying for a while I wish I could vote for more of them they’re so nice and they bring pizza recipes

  • ComradeSharkfucker
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    America would be a boring ass country if it was just white America. I have been saying this

  • Wytch
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    I fucking love the diversity of the United States. It enriches us all.

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      Diversity is everywhere, the US isn’t special (in any good way, at least).

      • Match!!
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        no, but we could make a special place that is extra welcoming to diversity and immigrants, and I would like to live there and call that place America

  • bitofarambler
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    great point, and many countries would be literally poorer as well.

    even undocumented immigrants pay about $100 billion in taxes to the US each year.

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      I loath people that claim immigrants aren’t paying taxes and just taking free money. If they have an official job, they’re paying taxes and every time they make a purchase, taxes are paid, just like everyone else that’s not rich.

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        Seems weird that an illegal immigrant would have an official job that taxes are paid on. Seems like it would be a big risk for both

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          For sure, it is. But, if they do have one, they are likely paying taxes. They could be filing exempt, but I do feel that may be even riskier. Obviously if they are cash under the table, then it’s only on purchases, not income.

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            Because if they paid into it, but don’t file then the government got money it won’t have to refund. A lot less risky than asking to pay your refund.

    • greenfire
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      for which the only benefit they enjoy is to be underpaid for their essential contributions to US society & economy