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Firefox gets like 90% of its revenue from Google.
Keep Firefox independent and donate: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/?form=donate
But donating your money can not make firefox independent.It will only make firefox more revenue.
Google wants to keep mozilla afloat to stay out of anti-competitive allegations.
If mozilla gets market share, google will defund them. That mozilla have a money will help.
Also mozilla’s other projects are also good ;)
Also big CEO wallets.
Nothing in comparison to others but there is some special pay going.But it’s definitely the lesser of the evils.
Some of Mozilla’s other projects are good, iirc there was a journalist a few years ago who chronicled how Mozilla had donated a lot of money to other charities unrelated to it’s goal rather than reinvesting in the business so that it can try to ween off of Google reliance.
And the money won’t go to Firefox, but Mozilla’s other projects.
I tried to preach why Google sharing your browsing history with ad partners is bad, but most of my friends don’t seem to care. :(
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But there are a few specific hardware configurations and specialized jobs that Linux doesn’t work for, therefore nobody should use it!
Why not be happy both OS options exist? Both have a place and a use and in various ways an ease of use
What use is there for the others?
Woosh…
That’s the point. We want options for OSs to exist, instead of one company monopolizing the entire market.
Linux with 100% market share can’t monopolize the entire market because it doesn’t have a centralized distro
You see similar to Google with Redhat/Canonical. If everyone was with them then it would be a problem
Linux with 100% marketshare means nothing.
GPL is designed to protect developer rights, not user rights.
If google packaged your linux distro and sold it through the play store bundled with their own apps and sandboxed everything and called it chromeOS, your rights would not be any better protected.
Security and privacy involves users making informed choices to protect themselves, full stop.
And as long as Chrome OS didn’t have majority market share it would be fine
Any of thousands of people can say this but i don’t see it in the comments below so: I’ve been using a Linux Mint / Windows dual boot system for over 10 years and love it. I think a lot of people see Linux as highly technical, but versions like Mint and Ubuntu are more carefree than Windows nowadays.
Sure but Google also uses tons of open source - android is built on the linux kernel, and even chrome is or is based on open source:
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You can just disable it when it pops up. I hope it continues to warn new users when first setting it up.
Yes, it seems to be trendy to use this as a reason to switch to Firefox, but surely you can just totally disable this new feature in Chrome? The article even tells you how to do this. I guess people are switching as a protest?
It’s a new feature in the testing phase. Once it’s proven to work correctly (for Google), the option to disable it will be taken away.
Interesting. Do you have a source for that, please?
It’s how Google rolls out new features all the time.
First they ask you. Then it will become a opt-out flag. Then maintaining the switch option will be too much work and it will disappear.
Honestly what should concern you is that this is the way Chrome is going, not that you are allowed to enjoy it your own way for a little while more.
So as far as i know, firefox is the only mayor browser not based on chromium. Also, firefox is dependent on google’s funding because of a search engine exclisivity deal. So my understanding is that, if google decides to kill firefox, they could easily do that. Well, what then? Is there any other browser left wich similar features that would be untouchable by google?
You have to decide for yourself if those browsers have the features you need, but just for your interest, other non-chromium browsers are Ladybird, NetSurf, Flow, Pale Moon, Basilisk and K-Meleon.
They couldn’t kill Firefox without having the US government come down on them for monopoly. Which the government is already looking at https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/tech/doj-google-lawsuit/index.html , so it’s not likely Google will risk it even further by shitting down funding to Firefox. Pretty sure they’ll point at Firefox to claim they’re not a monopoly.
So the lawsuit appears to be looking at Google as a search engine monopoly, not web browser, right? And if I’m understanding this right, assuming this lawsuit goes anywhere, it would actually incentivize Google to pull funding from Firefox to no longer support that search engine exclusivity deal.
Google still benefits from having Firefox around, so that they can maintain less of an appearance of a monopoly in the browser space. Whatever way they fund Firefox, it’s still to their benefit to do so.
This is pretty much the same situation as when Apple faced bankruptcy a while back and Microsoft essentially bailed them out.
Having an effective monopoly is better than a literal one for legal reasons
We need to extend our laws to effective monopolies too, fuck this shit
This should be the top comment, and I’m going to come back to view the replies. I can’t personally think of any realistic alternatives. Someone further down posted a link to an article about the US investigating Google for a search engine monopoly, but I’m not sure how large a role that would factor into web browsers.
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Edge switched to chromium in 2020…
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Honestly, I’ll give credit to Apple for pushing forward JXL on webkit and pushing back against Chromium team’s dominance and Mozilla team’s apathetic stance in the browser space. While I appreciate Mozilla’s stance on Manifest V3 and several other issues, I can’t help but hope for more development from the Servo project.
Fun fact, Firefox used to be called… Netscape… Yeah… Let’s see how many miklenials are in here!
I’ve just browsed with Netscape. But did not know this fact.
I’ve been corrected that it is a branch off of, not a direct evolution of, Netscape.
Sort of. Netscape released the program’s source code and Firefox used that as a base, but it wasn’t like they took Netscape and just changed the name to Firefox like your comment implies. They were competing browsers for a while.
Fair enough. My bad.
And remember what happened when Microsoft tried to kill Netscape? That needs to happen again, but against Google.
We will have to maintain a Chromium fork with their trackers removed, if it comes to that.
Likely Google won’t do anything until or unless the bulk of the public moves off of Chrome over this.
Like Vivaldi or Brave?
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Yes…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Unlike the glitzy front-page Google blog post that the redesign got, the big ad platform launch announcement is tucked away on the privacysandbox.com page.
The blog post says the ad platform is hitting “general availability” today, meaning it has rolled out to most Chrome users.
This has been a long time coming, with the APIs rolling out about a month ago and a million incremental steps in the beta and dev builds, but now the deed is finally done.
Users should see a pop-up when they start up Chrome soon, informing them that an “ad privacy” feature has been rolled out to them and enabled.
That’s actually what started this whole process: Apple dealt a giant blow to Google’s core revenue stream when it blocked third-party cookies in Safari in 2020.
Google says it will block third-party cookies in the second half of 2024—presumably after it makes sure the “Privacy Sandbox” will allow it to keep its profits up.
The original article contains 588 words, the summary contains 159 words. Saved 73%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
good bot, keep it up!
I hate how rage baity article headlines have become. This isn’t even true. The new “ad platform” integrated into Chrome is better for your privacy than what existed before. It’s a revision of the previous system. If you think Google didn’t track anything in Chrome before, you’re wrong.
I can assure you nobody thought Google was not spying the fuck outta you with Chrome.
this is discussed in the article
Doesn’t change much about the headline being totally wrong
to be clear, I meant that the reasons you’re wrong are discussed in the article. I did not mean that the content of the article is more correct than that of the headline - the headline and article are both are correct. I suggest you read the article
Is this just for chrome,or is it on all chromium browsers? Im running bromite,but considering going back to Firefox.
No, it’s not in Vivaldi
Chromium contains it. Up to the browser bundling it how they configure/patch it.
Well damn. Any recommendations for a ff mobile app?
I use Mull these days.
The official Firefox on Android is all there is.
iOS only has WebKit (for now).
I should have specified,I meant open source version/app,or official. I prefer open source,but at one time fdroid had several versions,but I’m not against the stock app. I’ve been ootl for a while on what’s up with ff.
Firefox for Android.
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Every single thing about Google sucks nowadays. Great job Sundar, you successfully turned one of the former most exciting companies on the planet into one of the absolute lamest.
I already use Firefox for everything that’s not literally for my D&D stuff. Because some relevant fan sites don’t display properly on Firefox for some stupid reason. That’s it. So even if they manage to get past my blockers, they literally are telling me nothing I will ever care about because I already have/know where to get any relevant thing those ads might be shilling, and the rest is all irrelevant noise.
Same, though those D&D websites work in Brave with the usual blockers turned on (uBlock + Brave’s blockers), so maybe its an engine thing?
Back in the old days when a software contains these crap, considered as adware/malware and people get their pitchforks.
Now: its normal.
Honestly, I was already using FF for my home. Made the switch on Mobile after seeing this on the news yesterday. I’m just one person though.
I’ve also switched to FF on both desktop and mobile because of this. So there’s two of us!
Moi makes trois!
I switched my whole family several years back. Nobody has any issues with it.
I’ve been using Firefox Mobile for years. It’s never let me down and having mobile adblock is great
this probably still won’t make people switch to Firefox.
As a seamonkey user - aka mozilla, the flagship product that Mozilla deemed was too hard to maintain - I’m just surprised Firefox is still going. We joked at the time that Mozilla would find a browser too hard, then a rendering suite, then a library, then an algorithm, and finally a line of code.
(tribalists - I’m not picking on Firefox, so calm your knickers. I’m still just picking on Mozilla)
Anyone know a good Google Chrome replacement on Android that is chromium based? Wanna a basic browser that I’ll use when Firefox does not work correctly
