For me the easiest tell is the up front, unprompted, and unsolicited declaration of nonpoliticalness. When someone takes the time and expends the breath to announce how nonpolitical they are, what follows is almost always a rant about how everything/everyone else is too political these days, and that of course leads into something between status quo advocacy and outright reactionary/regressive sentiments for some fabled time before those wicked politics were visible to the nonpolitical ranter. 
People that are hostile to service workers. Some just want to take some ideological stand against tipping when the service worker doesn’t really have a choice and needs those tips to survive in the current unjust system in a way where ideological purity gestures toward that service worker just look like being a greedy and sanctimonious asshole. The worst of such people will actually declare, shamelessly, that they believe that service workers don’t deserve a living wage. The implications of that are 
worthy.
I may get shit for this, but I’ll say it anyway: this hair and beard combo, seen on living people. 
I have yet to meet anyone in person with that look that wasn’t a chud.
(If one of you is a comrade with that look, I am sorry in advance for the prejudice and if I ever meet you in person I will atone by buying you a drink or something.)
Undercuts in general in white men is a huge tell. It’s not 100%, but the correlation is significant. That shit’s known as a “Hitler Youth” haircut for a reason.
if they play hearts of iron
I feel like I’m pretty good at getting a vibe that someone is shitty, but I can never pinpoint why so I don’t say anything since I wouldn’t want to baseless accuse someone and no one would take it seriously anyway, but I’m right a lot of the time. Then again I’ve interacted with people I thought were very cool because they’d posture themselves as woke and lefty but then laugh about getting someone arrested for shoplifting or they have a nazi uniform “fetish”.
A fash dude in person tried to get into a group I was organizing with. We went on a day there, day back roadtrip with him before we really knew him and by the end of it we cut him out completely.
Two biggest red flags were:
- He had a paranoid obsession with societal collapse, kept repeating stupid shit like “we’re nine missed meals from murdering each other in the streets”
- Pretty much the first thing he asked was our ethnic background, and he had a bit too much of an “interest” in ethnic cultural differences and the like
It didn’t take long for the full fash ideology to be on display and as soon as we dropped him off we blocked him on everything and never looked back.
On the first part shouldn’t the solution be making sure everyone has what they need to avoid people being in desperate straights? It seems more sensible to do this than try to beat everyone into submission
His mindset was that it’s going to happen anyway because Western decline, and we are going to have to defend against immigrants, past and present.
Why not just prepare to accept new immigrants and focus on making a stronger society? We will never be able to handle climate collapse otherwise.
we’re nine missed meals from murdering each other in the streets
Always love to walk through that logic. Why do hungry people have a higher likelihood of murdering each other? Is it 9 missed meals for an individual or does a group of people need to experience those missed meals collectively? How long can people get by on 2 meals a day without being murdered? How long can people get by on 1 meal a day without being murder? 1 meal every 2 days? What if they’re skipping meals but their kids are fed? If it takes 3 days to reach Murdertown, what happens on days 1 and 2? Is everyone dead on day 4? Are there particular people who tend to be targets of the murder? Is the murder for meat? Is it out of anger? Is a power play? How do you prepare for The Purge But For Real? What should we do to prevent it? What can we do? Why do you think about this so often? Do you think it’s imminent? Why why why why why
Why do hungry people have a higher likelihood of murdering each other?
I imagine the argument is that they’re murdering each other over the remaining scraps of food. Which doesn’t seem entirely untrue considering how many wars have historically been fought over farmland and resources.
That being said the idea of most people turning into murderers doesnt seem to fit too well into what happened during actual famines.
being comparable, at their very worst, to those found in some areas of the United States of America in the 1990s
Yikes
I lived in one of the wealthiest places in America during that time. One if the poorest spots in America was two towns over.
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“how do you do fellow leftists? hey just so you know, i’m racist. hope that won’t be a problem”
“we’re nine missed meals from murdering each other in the streets”
When a chud says that, what they mean is they look forward to it.
Or they are fear mongering with the intent to sway opinion that societal collapse is imminent so that we all must be ready to use extreme measures.
“Societal collapse” in their mind is the collapse of their privileged life. “Extreme measures” meaning find ways to quietly genocide a group of people before it becomes an open power struggle.
so that we all must be ready to use extreme measures.
Every time a hurricane hits hard enough, chuds are eager to “defend” against “looters.”
finding
looting
“So, you watch anime?”
Not an ironclad rule by any means, but enough to make me start paying attention.
Yeah, I first ask what they watch before responding in the affirmative. It’s always something like AoT or isekai stuff, which isnt something I want to engage with - well, Escaflowne and The Twelve Kingdoms were cool, but not really part of the modern isekai trajectory.
One day, someone will say “Land of the Lustrous”, and I will be delighted.
This made my check the manga, and was pleasantly surprised to find that it’s been getting chapters this year. It’s so good.
I can only say “I watched Trigun and the Frieza saga on toonami
”Actually wait no, I’ve also seen a bunch of Lupin III movies, those were fun, and like the first third of each FMA but I got bored with those. Not really cause they’re bad, it was just after I stopped watching any long tv series
If they start talking about Attack on Titan
If they start talking about Made In Abyss
AoT is just a mecha anime with some genocide sprinkled on top, i dont know what you’re talking about
I have a Gundam icon
Like I said, not a rule, but the incoming conversation might be enlightening.
Lest I look like a chud, I’ll make sure that whenever I ask “So, you watch anime?” that I immediately follow it up with “Did you know that in that Little Witch Academia episode where the non-humans at the magical academy unionize and strike, that when Akko joins the non-humans (respect), that the kanji on her headband are based on a style of typography called gebaji? The word gebaji derives from gebaruto, from German Gewalt. In Japanese, gebaruto generally refers to violence perpetrated by leftist student activists in the '50s and '60s. Their protest signs used a distinctive style of bold, angular, ‘common man’ typography, and this typographic style is to this day associated with or used as shorthand for leftist particularly student activism. Gebaji is also known by other names, such as Zengakurenmoji — you might recognize the name ‘Zengakuren’ from their role in the famous riot at Sanrizuka in 1985. Anyways, here’s a photo of a younger Hayao Miyazaki at some kind of labor action of the union for Studio Toei. You can see that he’s wearing a headband just like the one Akko wore. You gotta love a union man, eh? By the way, have you seen the, like, anime music video created by the Japanese Communist Party? Heck, do you watch any donghua, for that matter?”
Complete tangent, but I’m trying to get into wuxia and xianxia right now and anyone I ask about it just tells me “Have you read Romance of the Three Kingdoms?”
Bitch, if I said I was looking for a good romance novel and you recommended Pride and Prejudice i might just slap you. Give me an anime or something. Smh
COMRADE AKKO UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CAN’T JUST “METAMORPHIE FOCIESSE” OUR WAY TO A CLASSLESS, MONEYLESS SOCIETY… DO YOU?
why does this thread have so many interesting eclectic comments lol, of all the threads to bring this stuff out of the woodwork it was “what are some tells that someone is fash”
anyway that was cool, thanks for sharing
that music video blew my goddamn mind hahahahahaha.
I may get shit for this, but I’ll say it anyway: this hair and beard combo, seen on living people.
I have yet to meet anyone in person with that look that wasn’t a chud.Any haircut that looks like something you would’ve seen 100 years ago
That P R E S T I G E T V viking show that featured the
look was farcically awful to me, and it was rich how the usual “historical accuracy” enforcers were silent about it. I’ve even gotten some people claiming that “we can’t be sure” how vikings really had their hair done up but I highly doubt they had the equipment to maintain that look while raiding even if they knew about it and wanted to. I know it encouraged a lot more chuds to pick up the look, too.I still thought it was better than the imitators that have followed it, just because most of them are from the perspective of the demon english
You taught us a couple months ago that vikings looked like
I’d like to imagine a viking using some Flintstones-ass clippers filled with bees or something to even attempt cutting their hair like
Better chance of that than
and I stand by that.
I knew about the likes of spencer and robinson popularizing it in late 10s, but goddamn
Jesus Christ, my sideburns are an inch or two away from looking like that. No wonder my barber dialed it back on my faux-hawk.
I think it’s really just men with that hairstyle
I haven’t seen it on many women, but now that I think about it, it might look cool and comrade potential is unknown.
It’s usually fashionable lesbians so
i wouldn’t say fashionable, maybe in 2015. and its definitely no longer a queer thing, every white women and their mother had an under cut ten years ago.
“nondenominational church”
Talks about “working families” instead of workers when complaining about government policy.
Dislikes both parties, but when pressed cites a dislike of people rather than policy or ideology.
Recently in Aus. Plans to vote no on the voice referendum at all, but especially if they say because “it will create apartheid”. For who motherfucker!? (There are, admittedly, some leftists who don’t want a voice because they want a treaty first but also this is dumb we need both and also to drive the coalition into the sea, specifically the part of it with the most box jellyfish)
“nondenominational church”
IME this is code for “you’re about to hear that Catholics are all cryptopagans, also I don’t know what an Orthodox Christian is but if I did they’d be a cryptopagan too.”
Oh man some of these guys think Lutherans and Presbyterians are cryptopagans.
“Why can’t they just call themselves Christians?”
More “Arminianism isn’t nearly depressing enough a theology for us we need full Hypercalvinism to justify our prosperity gospel.”
(I think maybe my recent posts are a bit hard on moderate Reformed (ie, Cavinist) Churches who despite my disagreements have often lead left wing movements. But much like Tradcaths these fuckers aren’t helping.)
There are, admittedly, some leftists who don’t want a voice because they want a treaty first
Both the voice and treaty will do nothing substantial
NZ has a treaty and they’ve still got a very high incarceration rate
NZ has huge problems, I’ve lived there and I am under no illusion that there has been a proper reckoning there. But they’re an order of magnitude better than Australia, and that’s party due to the shitty treaty they (largely didn’t, since it was a dodgy translation) signed. Even if it was mostly ignored and the Maori had to fight for every inch of their rights on the streets, it did make things a little easier for that fight, and for the fights they still have.
AU on the other hand did not recognise that Aboriginal nations held land here at all until the 1990s. We have the highest First Nations incarceration Rate in the World, higher than SA under Apartheid (unless you count the Bantustans as essentially giant prisons, of course, but then we had the forced reservations, the stolen generation, the institutes…). It’s really hard to imagine how bad things are. There are entire families that think having aboriginal heritage is something to be ashamed of, and their kids haven’t found out until they did a DNA test or found some letters (Fanon’s work on Colonial shame is relevant here). It’s fucking bleak and racism is open, constant, and blatant in a way that would shock most people here. Major news anchors spew eugenics. Seemingly ordinary humanist libs will suddenly spew the most violent racist bile in a way I’ve only ever seen with the Romani in Europe.
Some of that exists in NZ as well, but like I said, it’s not as mask off or as universal.
I hold little hope, like you, that a voice or a treaty will accomplish practical change on their own. But because most people are libs, it will provide not just a basis for agitprop that will be harder to ignore, but “Legitimate institutions” that can support the substantive campaigns of direct action in a way liberals will be unable to ignore or critique as outside the “proper channels.”
If it fails of course, we can bully the Yes voters into radical action, which is also fun. We have a path either way. But I’d prefer a win.
grew up in and around nondenominational churches and wow. some of those people are just a simmering pot of wild takes and beliefs. luckily we made it out but man. it’s a black hole.
Yeah, I grew up Catholic, but family were Non-dom and if someone says their Trad its just “I’m a gigantic Fascist who thinks Franco is the coolest”
But “Non-denominational” had just enough non chuds in the description that it could be a group of Christian Anarchists or some Jesuit who got defrocked for taking ecumenicalism too far or some weird descendent of the Diggers. But it wont be, it’ll be Hillsong or people more fash than Hillsong.
Anybody that watches any news on tv cannot be saved. They will never understand anything that happens on this planet.
A few months ago I tried watching NRK news on the TV. There was some interesting stuff, but there was also a lot of stuff where I said, “…Why exactly are you showing me this? I don’t think you’re telling the whole story here, anyways.”
TV news can be a good way to hear about recent events, but it isn’t always a good way to be informed about them. This is true anywhere, but especially in the United Occupation Zones of America — where the TV news is among the world’s most laughably bad, and most of the residents don’t even realize its quality.
I have moved several times in my life. Local news is a good way to understand the dominant mindset and priorities of an area; annual festivals, long-standing family restaurants, concerts happening. Stuff like that is what the local news should be for. Too bad it’s sprinkled in with the crime and politics segments which keep people “excited” to watch the news.
I was an avid news watcher. Glad I got over that phase
I’m surrounded by people who watch local news, which is 99% “a criminal did something bad…but then our plucky boys in blue CAUGHT HIM!” It’s not enough that every other movie or TV show is about cops (or superheroes or cowboys or people in the space navy, who are all also cops). CNN / MSNBC / Fox News would honestly be an upgrade for people who still consume local news.
or cowboys… who are all also cops
This is slander against RDR & Django.
More often its, ‘a criminal did something bad… we haven’t caught him yet, so stay extremely vigilant, 100% of the time; you could be the one that finds him!’ So people create the fantasy of being a vigilante and install security cameras all around their house in the suburbs.
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I signed up for nextdoor because I’d heard it was a good place for fashwatching, and I left it after like a month because I couldn’t handle how bad it really was. There would be videos of petty theft by kids, and the comments would be about how those children and their parents need to be put in a cage
I signed up for nextdoor because I’d heard it was a good place for fashwatching, and I left it after like a month because I couldn’t handle how bad it really was.
yeah, you can watch the fash – but who wants to know that everyone in their neighborhood is a fashy shitter?
Honestly most of the time I see a variety of ball cap on a white dude it feels like a tell. Not necessarily always a chud but I feel the ratio is in that direction. I would be curious if there is actually data on this or just a prejudice of mine.
Intense fearful gaze is another one, which is why they also love to wear sunglasses everywhere. The funniest thing chuds do is take selfies of themselves scowling with sunglasses on in their pickup truck.
Honestly most of the time I see a variety of ball cap on a white dude it feels like a tell.
Cries in balding and wears a hat daily.
I am already pasty white bald. But my shine is respected.
I got a beautiful head of hair but I’ll still throw on a ball cap if the UV index is high. I’ll give him the sunglasses thing but if you take the hats too then my eyes are gonna melt in the sun.
you ever been to a major coastal city?
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pickup truck.
another tell: driving a trucks, especially a big WW2 tank size lifted piece of shit Ford F150, etc.
CLEAN trucks are indicative of this. A dirty truck belongs to someone who works with it.
Intense fearful gaze is another one, which is why they also love to wear sunglasses everywhere.
Those thumbheads are terrified of even the possibility of emotional vulnerability, because it might be gaaaaaay.
Being too intensely interested in football.
Football is a popular working class pastime, a great way to get exercise and a great way to socialise as a player or as a fan. Literal billions enjoy football worldwide and there’s nothing wrong about that.
But then there’s the kind of guy who is so much into football that he makes it a defining part of his personality. These kind of guys are more likely than not to be aggressive and nasty chuds.
90% of Eastern European football-obsessed fans are fascists.
I think this is called sublimation. “I, the petite bourgeois / labor aristocrat who benefits from capitalism but is still humiliated by the fact that I am not a billionaire and never will be no matter what I do, must pour my rage at the system in some other direction, since destroying the system will, at the very least, temporarily inconvenience me.”
Football guy/girl is like an archetype in every European social circle.
Being too intensely interested in football.
That also especially goes for MMA. The people that start talking about BJJ as “chess” tend to be insufferably chuddy.
Reminds me of the brother in Get Out who monologues about it.
I agree that being into football in a certain way just screams “i like getting into fights”, but depending on the club that may also mean “i like to punch nazis every weekend”.
If i don’t like em
me but unironically (help I have issues)
correct answer
This one is going to be US-centric, but if they’re vocal about how they only care about college sports specifically and aren’t a fan of pro sports there’s a substantial chance they’re a horrible reactionary and probably worse than your average chud.
I’m interested to see how the effects of things like the NIL in college sports (players are now legally getting paid through boosters of colleges as a short summary) will impact these people’s fandom (if at all) in the future. This is interesting as their “defense” has always been about how it’s been a more “pure” form of the game without players getting paid which I’m fairly certain is just thinly-veiled racism.
There’s no veil. It’s pure know your place racism.
Being afraid of Chicago is a pretty good (though not perfect) tell about where they’re getting their news. A lot of right-wing sources will go full
Being afraid of Malmö is a similar kind of red flag.
For Germany, it’s Berlin-Neukölln. However, there’s less of a “this is a dangerous no-go area”, and more of a focus on supposedly super-strong arabic “clan” families, which are known as dangerous criminal organizations and there are consistent raids against in all of the country.
Who cares that the N’drangheta (calabrian mafia) has been way more successful in weaving itself into the German Economy, it’s a good occasion to scaremonger among BILD (right wing tabloid) readership.
weaving itself into the German Economy
Well that’s the thing, German conservatives see somebody doing a giant money laundering operation and will immediately feel a deep kinship to them. Bourgeois politicians are obviously always close to white collar crime, but the CDU/CSU just loves that shit, it’s their biggest passion.
Being afraid of cities in general, especially if they live in a small town/rural area.
“B-b-b-but the fascist TV man told me cities are warzones full of minorities and the homeless! Everyone is constantly robbing each other and murdering at random! No I haven’t left my hometown of 2000 people in 15 years, why do you ask?”
I can’t tell you how many people I got this from when moving to Minneapolis
It just means I see fewer of those people around 🥳
I have every right to be scared of Chicago because I had a flight with a layover there last week and as soon as I walked off the airplane and into O’Hare airport Chief Keef ran up and shot me to death
I’ve been living there my whole life and always check under the bed for Chief Keef before going to sleep.
You never know.
Anything positive at all about any type of cop, anything negative at all about any homeless person.
One day in the near future, there will be a homeless cop and any time anyone says anything about them they will become a corncob instantly.
Just imagining another cop brutalizing the homeless cop, but then they both cover it up
Honestly, if there’s anything middle school health class taught me, it’s that you should always “cover it up” if you’re gonna “brutalize” someo— [volcel police covers my mouth and drags me away]
Just like black cops and woman cops, cop overrides all other factors.
No one is ever a “cop something”, they’re always a “something cop” (well mostly just because that’s the way job titles work but you know).
No one is ever a “cop something”, they’re always a “something cop”
except cop killer >:)
Or in 51 of the current century
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Does this include Columbo?
If they are as interested in politics as I am, there’s a high chance it’s for the opposite reasons
The delicate dance of criticizing Liberalism together while trying to read each other’s motives
Yep, and it’s super frustrating.
