• bigboopballs [he/him]
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    102 years ago

    why is the hobbies thing more important than everything else?

    I’m sorry I’m broke on a capitalist hellscape and can’t afford a car, much less pay for some club dues or expensive gear to do some adrenaline junkie shit outside and just enjoying sitting inside playing video games and doing other online crap like reading (not books generally, unfortunately)

    I hope this is just some shit The Kids™ care about, but I feel like being poor only weighs more heavily against me the older I get.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      What are you on about lol. Reading and playing video games are hobbies. Do you think the average person is playing games for a job? And yes there are a bunch of nerds out there doing these things for fun who want to date. You likely won’t find them on fuck apps, but every other coworker is playing something. Having “no hobby” would be sitting on your phone for 8 hours scrolling on twitter, then switching over to YouTube, then switching over to discord

      Being poor does affect people’s lives, but plenty of poor people still get laid. If you can play games, then you’re not at the level of poverty where work consumes every second of your waking time and “hobbies” are a waste of time because you need to feed yourself

      Anyway, as someone whose hobbies are solitary and don’t contribute to any positive outcomes in my social life, people value hobbies because

      1. It provides alone time for all parties
      2. It provides something to talk about
      3. it shows you have goals and purposes in your life outside of breathing and working
      4. If applicable, the hobby allows for collaboration and intimacy
    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      152 years ago

      yeah I was gonna come say this. Most everyday regular people think the word communist just means “bad.” They don’t ascribe it any particular political leaning, they don’t associate it with leftism or welfare or working class concerns or anything. It carries the same weight as a word like authoritarian or tyrant. Most everyday folk if pressed to describe what a communist believes will instead describe a cartoon of a greedy autocrat who makes everyone poor and causes the crops to die.

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    The survey results, which have been shared with Teen Vogue, include responses from 1,033 registered voters between the ages of 18-34. It was conducted between August 25 and September 1: 43% of respondents identify as male; 45% identify as female; 5% identify as trans; 6% identify as nonbinary or gender nonconforming, and 1% identify as other. (source)

    Trans people disproportionately identified as “progressive”, the most left wing option there was in the survey:

    • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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      152 years ago

      responses from 1,033 registered voters

      ah, so anybody who’s based enough to realize that voting is nothing but a waste of time wasn’t included. i feel like that’s an important caveat for interpreting this data

      Death to America

    • kristina [she/her]
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      sicko-fem love to see my 90% socialist number confirmed by a skewed survey. also it was voters from aug 25-sept 1st, have no clue how they got in contact, i dont think any elections were happening during that time. and i bet that 7% was indignant that there wasnt a more hard left option. the question itself is also leading, you could answer your family as being liberal even if you dont believe that

      • President_Obama [they/them]
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        52 years ago

        have no clue how they got in contact, i dont think any elections were happening during that time.

        They’re registered voters, not people they questioned at the polls

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      Also assuming trans people were .7% of respondents means they’re extrapolating from like 10 people lol. Really curious how they got those numbers

    • bigboopballs [he/him]
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      282 years ago

      I hate how every dating app profile is all about how they enjoy skydiving, 4x4ing, kayaking and all kinds of crazy shit that is way too exciting for me, and probably would cost several months of my disposable income

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        232 years ago

        I think it’s lifestyle airbrushing, like what basic people do on Facebook. I highly doubt most of them actually have the time or even the inclination to do that stuff regularly, but if they did it once or have the equipment, they can add it to the Very Important And Dynamic People bingo card.

        • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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          Well I probably wouldn’t start to like them in any sort of romantic sense.

          Having some sort of drive to do something or be interested in a particular topic or endeavour is a pretty fundamental part of my brain. I’m defining “hobbies” very broadly here, but being able to do or create things for their own sake, especially with or for other people, is a major portion of the point of my life.

          Even just enjoying whipping up a good dinner for yourself once in a while counts. Bingeing Netflix as an escape doesn’t to me. Obviously this is pretty subjective but it’s how I relate to people.

          The other thing is that I like people with a confident and well-defined sense of self, and interests and hobbies are a major part of that. I’ve been at the point where I want to sink time into some of the things I care about and a partner of mine has little of their own to counterbalance that, and the mismatch with how we want to spend time can be difficult. I absolutely cannot be someone’s only obsession.

        • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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          192 years ago

          because people that don’t have hobbies 1) are usually not happy and 2) will not be interesting to talk to. hobbies are important

          Death to America

          • bigboopballs [he/him]
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            52 years ago

            well I am too fucking poor for “hobbies”. why am I condemned to being undateable and unfuckable until I move up a tax bracket or two?

            • 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l [he/him]
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              32 years ago

              I mean the answer here is that yeah, we live under Capitalism, so how much money you make absolutely matters to how good of a shot you have in the dating pool; particularly as a man.

              Some people will tell you that these things don’t matter, because of some weird anecdote where they make up a dude who lives out of a dumpster but gets numbers all the time, but that’s not reality, and that’s absolutely not the norm.

                • 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l [he/him]
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                  52 years ago

                  Nah, don’t do that.

                  The thing is, you gotta learn to live with the struggle.

                  IDK, if this was the effect commenting was gonna have I probably shouldn’t have. I’m sorry for bringing you down tonight. meow-hug

            • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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              You’re not too poor for hobbies, you’re too poor to go skydiving and shit. There’s plenty of hobbies that don’t require expensive gear. No one wants to date a person who never does anything. Whatever you do is your hobby.

                • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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                  62 years ago

                  If you’re always in survival mode then you don’t have time for dating either. It sucks but almost everyone in the history of humanity didn’t get to pick their partner and it doesn’t make you a bad person to not be able to either.

                  People care what you do with your free time because chemistry will only take up some of it. Part of using a dating app is imagining yourself with the person and forming an opinion. Can I see myself with a skydiver? What about a gamer? What about a woodworker (jk, the mustache would tickle too much)?

                  What do you think qualifies as a hobby?

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                I was seeing a woman recently who was in debt and worked 2 full time jobs and 1 part time job and spent all her free time going on dates with me or clubbing with her friends

                You can 100% be too poor to have hobbies

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            I don’t think this is necessarily true

            I know tons of people that are happy and interesting to talk to who don’t have hobbies or interests but they just do random stuff all the time

            Stuff like clubbing, going to art/cultural/music events, consuming random media, travelling, hanging out in parks/around the city, etc.

            • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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              102 years ago

              In my books that counts. It’s cool when people have long-term interests but if you do stuff all the time that also makes you an interesting person. I would struggle to have a meaningful relationship with someone who doesn’t do anything like you listed.

  • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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    272 years ago

    Screaming and crying and throwing up and shaving my neck rn

    But yeah idc that most women don’t want to date a vegan/communist/etc. It’s convenient for me since I don’t want to date anyone who isn’t. This way I don’t have to do all of the filtering myself. I hate talking to someone, scheduling a date, and then learning that they are a squishy liberal who is presumably looking past politics because they like some other thing about me. I don’t want you, you are wasting both our time. One time a girl literally dropped the r slur. Like did you read the bio or not? Jesus, people.

  • CarbonScored [any]
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    102 years ago

    Pshaw, flawed study, what’s the percentage for they DON’T identify as a communist?

      • queermunist she/her
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        112 years ago

        something something colonialism something something reproduction of labor something something the historical defeat of the female sex and the mother right etc

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    382 years ago

    I really don’t like the degree to which the alt-right has coopted overgrown facial hair.

    I mean look at these guys: marx fidel-wut che-cigar We claimed this look from the beginning!

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    542 years ago

    The real takeaway is that men have worse politics than women (of people surveyed).

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    Meh, in my experience even conservative women will look past the whole ‘communist’ thing as long as you don’t lead with it. That being said, conservative women tend to be pretty boring imo (in that they all follow the same trends) with the exception being those into athletics, which is a split between conservative women and lesbians (who are usually anti-communist progressive liberals), so they are an interesting demographic.