For example, people on Reddit asking redundant questions and give equally redundant or unhelpful answers.
Whenever every ‘What’s the worst show you’ve seen?’ is asked, you’ll get 10,000 “Kardashians” answers, which is just easy karma farming.
If someone posts in a community that’s geared for something like opinions, but someone elects to just go on a full scale rant instead.
Although I’m sure this is highly optimistic, I’d love to avoid the toxic behaviors that were free to grow on Reddit. The most hateful words I’ve ever read were on Reddit; I’m already seeing it happen here. It would be wonderful if discourse was welcomed here and promoted without all of the toxic back and forth. What was more harmful was a large amount of one-sided bans dealt out by mods of a certain variety. As long as the mods agreed with someone’s stance it didn’t matter how obscene a comment made, was. Let’s try and be better than Reddit in more than one way.
All the hivemind from reddit. The love for random celebrities. Keanu Reeves doesn’t care for any of us here. The love for recycling facts everyone already knows. I don’t need to read about how the Appalachian mountains go up to Scotland again.
Probably the biggest one would be needlessly hostile or mocking responses.
Yep. Just blocked someone for that. I will not put up with that behavior here.
Sometimes it’s so hard though… It’s hard to find posts that are just slightly disagreeing… It’s always some asshole talking absolute bullshit or minimizing other people’s suffering… It’s really hard to respectfully disagree with someone who says vile shit.
I think you should change your mentality. Imo, most people want to do good, most people are average intelligence, and most people are about average informed. I’m not extraordinary- so when I disagree with someone I’m recognizing that they probably genuinely want good, they probably know as much as me, and they probably are as smart as me, yet they disagree. Maybe one of us is lacking information, or maybe they have a different philosophy than me. And I can accept that and think they’re wrong without jumping to them being a bad person. Basically, being wrong isn’t evil- and I don’t determine what is right anyways.
That’s a nice attitude. Many discussions would benefit from more people strive for something like that.
It’s really hard to respectfully disagree with someone who says vile shit.
Those are called trolls; you’re not supposed to feed them (before or after midnight).
Downvote and move on…
Well, I did say needlessly hostile. I definitely didn’t mean that you should treat actually vile people with velvet gloves.
I’m talking more about the overall culture on Reddit where you’d have someone making some innocuous mistake and getting torn into it for it.
Although, yeah, that does also extend to general disagreements that tend to take on raised hairs where it really isn’t warranted. Like, just of the top of my head, what happens whenever someone discusses the viability of nuclear power.
Wow, this was my first thought as well. I wonder if it would help to have an etiquette manual with examples of how to disagree respectfully.
needlessly hostile “gotcha” type responses that dont take into consideration the end users needs, use cases, or goals.
Im sorry in advance if I ever do that to anyone i need slapped.
I dont think redundant questions are the problem. But people’s historically short responses on reddit definitely were. Responses like “have you tried googling it” or “the question has already been answered, try searching before you post” do nothing but ostracize the person asking and make communities unwelcoming. I would like to see Lemmy more understanding, as to encourage and attract novice individuals in communities they are interested in
A way to more seemlessly link conversations together is kinda critical.
Seemless crossposting that shows you the comment as if it were a part of the conversation, kinda like a symlink.
Commenter links his post to an existing thread, collapsed by default mabe, and it puts the thread there as if it were always part of the conversation hirarchy
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Leave the /s at Reddit
You forgot putting your /s at the end
Going to have to disagree with this one. Saying /s is helpful for people like me who have a particularly hard time with interpreting text in casual contexts like this. Using /s doesn’t change the feel of the comment (at least in my eyes) and helps you understand the tone.
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Learn how to read context.
Brb, I’m just going to turn my autism off!
@[email protected] I agree. Even with the right context, it’s mostly difficult to read a text’s tone. So /s still helps.
…and right here you can see, even Lemmy users can have bad takes!
I mean we are the same users lol. I just migrated.
It’s amazing for how much this place is supposed to be decentralized and open, hours much you all want to control messaging, themes, and already are having fight over fight on who to defederate from.
I mean you’re highlighting some points that support how open and decentralized that this place is?
It seems there is a healthy sentiment among users and understanding the tolerance paradox. Beyond that the ability to discuss around what we (an instance) wants vs what we (Lemmy) wants vs what we (individual users) want is great. The option the federate and defederate is also great, as if there is an instance adding 0 value to any of those prior groups (like lemmy.online), you as a community can decide to not federate. You as a user don’t like that choice? You can go to another instance or make your own! The level of openess and control is really in your hands.
Experience has shown that too much blue-eyed-ness and openness towards trolls with bad intentions ruins a space very quickly. I can understand people want to put some thought into avoiding this before it happens.
Twice now I’ve seen claims of “This instance just exists to support <something bad>! Defederate them!”
Meanwhile I’m subscribed to what appear to be completely normal, reasonable communities on those instances that seem to have nothing to do with the bad thing. Think topics like computer networking and home improvement, stuff like that.
Can we go easy on jumping to the “This instance” claims? Yes, some unsavory communities have been started on various instances. Those instances have, in general, addressed the issues when they were brought to their attention… Can we reserve the nuclear defederation option for repeat offenders or technical issues?
Only Tangentially related but I keep reading “Defederate” as “Defenestrate”. Which is a way better way to deal with rogue instances IMO.
Brings a whole new meaning to “new <thing> just dropped”
Honestly not fan of defederation. I believe the answer should be giving users the ability to block instances. Maybe in the future versions of lemmy.
what are your favorite communities for home improvement?
Right? My feed could really use some more Tim Allen.
The only one I know of is [email protected] (sorry if I didn’t get that link correct). Not much traffic yet, but a few people have posted issues.
(Note - I used home improvement as an example of a general type of community that I subscribe to. I don’t know if lemmy.world was one of the ones I saw people pushing to defederate.)
Can you share a list of your subscribed communities? I need to bulk up
For home improvement, I’ve been using [email protected]. For computer networking, [email protected]. sh.itjust.works was one of the ones I saw people screaming to defederate because someone started a community there that most people (including me) found problematic. (Pretty sure the admins deleted it when they became aware.)
Beyond that…what topics interest you? Pretty pictures? Try [email protected] or [email protected] .
Cats? [email protected] is pretty active already, as one might expect…
I have a few geographically local subscriptions, as well as a sports team…a few TV shows like Futurama and The Simpsons…other hobbies…etc.
Futurama is life. Photography, cooking, home theater, vegetable gardening, reading, movies, sci-fi, Action Figures, bourbon, cocktails, cheese.
I joined a Nikon community here: [email protected] if that’s what you happen to shoot with.
This. So much this.
Pupper Snek Danger Noodle Cat Snake
/r/EnoughXSpam
What is the point of a community about hating seeing spam of a certain topic if all the community does is spam about the topic?
Underrated comment. I understand making a comment every now and then that’s negative (people should be free to reasonably complain) but whole subs devoted to hating on something create the most toxic environments and echo chambers on the internet while inadvertently contributing to the popularity of the thing they hate. The universe grows what you give attention to so I think its best to focus your attention on things you love instead of what you hate.
This is a redundant question. It’s been asked every two days.
What I will miss from Reddit:
- relevant discussions on every minute, niche topic available
- hitting a button and having it usually work (Lemmy growing pains are tough sometimes, I had to try repeatedly to get this comment up)
What I will not miss from Reddit:
- Low quality content, including, to be blunt, images with text (and calling them “memes”)
- joke subs in general
- joke subs where the people that joined later don’t know it’s supposed to be a joke
- silly repetitious comment chains
- “we did it, Reddit!”
- subs that were supposed to be about real advice/drama but were flooded with bad creative writing
Good news: the low quality memes are here! We’ll work on the rest in the morning
The good thing is one can block entire communities without issue in order to personalize the experience. It was already vital in Reddit for me, so I’m happy to do it from the start here. I don’t hate meme subs or anything and I’m glad they’re having fun, it’s just not what I want of this site. Or outrage bait subs… or sports subs… or gacha games subs… or cringe-focused subs… or -you get the drill. Happily blocking is easy and harmless to them.
Yeah. If only jerboa actually did it. Instead I’ve been blocking things just to see them still in my feed.
I haven’t seen an unironic “we did it reddit!” in years. It turned into a parody of itself
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Atleast the second point on your ‘missed’ list is generally instance related (atleast in my experience).
The only issues with buttons not working I had was when I didn’t realise my instance was down to update to 0.8.1
Atleast the second point on your ‘missed’ list is generally instance related (atleast in my experience).
True, and I am aware of that. But just speaking of the user experience, it is a pain point that I’m currently experiencing that I wasn’t when using Reddit (aside from the occasional “You Broke Reddit” outage periods).
That’s not a criticism of Lemmy, I mean I lived through Friendster’s cripplingly poor performance, Twitter’s failwhale, and the bad early days of Reddit. Performance issues with new, growing social media sites is to be expected. But for the time being, I do miss being on a more stable platform.
This is attempt #2 to submit this reply. Let’s see if it works…
Having spez as CEO
Edit: added a word and comma.
Edit 1: wow guys thank you so much.
Edit 2: Rip my inbox.
Edit 3: Ok guys Im going to sleep.
Pointless comment trying to be a contrarian to just add /s at the end.
Shut the fuck up
I appreciate a little footnote to explain what was edited, but yes to all the rest
And if its just a typo? Use strike through, then you can leave your funny typo and correct it
EDIT: i just commented this, right now.
