For example, people on Reddit asking redundant questions and give equally redundant or unhelpful answers.

Whenever every ‘What’s the worst show you’ve seen?’ is asked, you’ll get 10,000 “Kardashians” answers, which is just easy karma farming.

If someone posts in a community that’s geared for something like opinions, but someone elects to just go on a full scale rant instead.

  • @[email protected]
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    192 years ago

    /r/EnoughXSpam

    What is the point of a community about hating seeing spam of a certain topic if all the community does is spam about the topic?

    • @[email protected]
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      Underrated comment. I understand making a comment every now and then that’s negative (people should be free to reasonably complain) but whole subs devoted to hating on something create the most toxic environments and echo chambers on the internet while inadvertently contributing to the popularity of the thing they hate. The universe grows what you give attention to so I think its best to focus your attention on things you love instead of what you hate.

      • starlinguk
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        “All POC suck” - bigot.
        “No they don’t” - someone who disagrees.

        You’re welcome.

        • @[email protected]
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          I mean, I’ve never heard someone say the first one. Does that mean I’ve never seen a bigot?

    • Crudman
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      Also there was that one user who’d write these Uwu Cute Baby Animal poems in baby talk and would get upvoted and jacked off in the comments ad nauseum. Like, the Rupi Kuar of Baby Animal Content Farms. The William McGonagall of Wholesome 100 Circlejerking

      • @[email protected]
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        Why do you have issue with people having fun? How about you just ignore things you don’t like and stop trying to force people to meet your standards.

        • Crudman
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          I’m complaining about things in a thread that’s about complaining. I apologize if I rubbed you the wrong way but I’m not gonna interfere or police conversations about things I find mildly annoying.

          Your concerns are reasonable and I’ve been that asshole before but rage-posting and cruising for arguments has always left me feeling like shit. Unmedicated Crudman on Facebook circa 2018 was intolerable.

    • @[email protected]
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      There’s two kinds of resposting:

      “honest” resposting that happens when the OP hasn’t seen his submission previously posted.

      karma-whore resposting that happens when someone wants to get those sweet internet points.

      Without karma the second one may not be a problem at all ¯\(ツ)

      • magic_lobster_party
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        Karma-whoring is especially bad when it’s just all bots doing it. There were many instances where even comments on karma posts were bot generated. Upvotes were much likely bot generated too.

        Destroys the human element.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        I’ve gotten pegged by people when I reposted something I knew very well, hadn’t been posted within a year’s timeframe. Like, what’s the problem with that? It hasn’t been seen in so long so yeah it’ll be reposted.

        Unlike with your second scenario, I’ve seen posts crop up within the same day and they’re all gratified and praised like as if people hadn’t seen them before when their short attention spans fail to tell them that they did see it before very recently.

        • @[email protected]
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          Could’ve been different people. This happened all the time with me seeing something for the first time in my life, while comments were full of complaints of it being reposted once a week.

  • Kerrigor
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    Power moderators. There is no justifiable reason for one person to own hundreds of major subs.

    • CMLVI
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      The only justification I could think of is someone providing CSS services to different subs. Instead of modding/demodding for every issue, they just stay on and work as needed.

    • Decoy321
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      112 years ago

      The problem there is finding someone else to do the work for free.

      • norbert
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        If someone is a mod of more than a handful of forums/subs/mags/whatever I kind of doubt they’re able to dedicate enough time to mod properly anyway.

        It just became a thing to collect to show you were part of the “in” crowd.

    • @[email protected]
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      I was so clueless when the whole Kardashian thing started, I thought the buzz was around the Star Trek universe Cardassian people. I was so confused, but not interested enough to find out.

  • andrew
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    Centralization of anything. Powermods shouldn’t be a thing, and major central instances are a bit sketchy too. No offense to ruud et al.

    • Decoy321
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      172 years ago

      The problem with power mods is that it’s a thankless job that people do for free. You’re not exactly getting a line of people out the door willing to take up the mantle, so a small group of power users end up taking on more and more.

      • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ
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        You’re giving them too much credit. Although some are altruistic, many are greedy power hungry scabs who’s entire life revolves around holding whatever merger power they can over others.

        I stepped up once and made a sub for a small niche game I liked when none existed. The devs noticed, reached out me with free copies of the game to give away on the sub and everything. Then some power mods got wind of it, made their own subreddit for the game and completely overwhelmed my little sub though cross promotion via their other subs and with their army of alt accounts too.

        Most of them don’t want help, their cries are just to elicit sympathy and get free stuff out of it. Power mods are the scourge of Reddit.

        • Decoy321
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          I’d wager it’s the other way around. Most of us are decent people, it’s just a few bad apples that make the rest of us look bad.

          And yes, I’ve been a mod for a couple decades on various platforms. On reddit I ran about a dozen smaller subs for years. Almost all the mods on my teams were decent people, only a single person was the exception.

          And the problems with reddit are more systemic than “hurry durr power mods r bad.” It’s like having a cough, then blaming your mouth for it. Don’t just look at the guy doing work for free, look at the people getting paid off the backs of free labor.

          • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ
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            Reddit is a fairly unique exception to the usual moderator experience. I too used to be an admin on a couple of large forums and IRC servers and I’d say most of those people were decent. Reddit however is plaged with a large number of power mods in many of the medium to larger subs who’s sole purpose in life is to be an online lord of opinion and toxicity over others.

            That’s not to say there’s not decent people too but I imagine your experience is squewed a bit if you ran smaller ones.

      • vlad
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        That’s already kind of happening. the main two communities are lemmy.world and lemmy.lm. And since different instances can defederate from each other that can cause the same echo chambers we saw on reddit. Here’s a list of everything you can’t see if you’re on lemmy.world: https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=lemmy.world

        Thankfully you can go out and make an account on an instance like lemmy.sdf.org that doesn’t block anything but I don’t think it’s a perfect solution.

      • andrew
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        52 years ago

        Well right. The answer is just to have GPT moderate everything in exchange for Bitcoin. /s

        You’re definitely right, though. It’s thankless but important and idk what the solution really is, but I think distribution is definitely better than centralization. More mods the merrier even if they’re just there as checks and balances. But that’s definitely getting into politics as well, which I’m not great at.

        • HobbitFoot
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          32 years ago

          Something that Lemmy should do is create a better way to handle mod permissions. Reddit’s system of the ranking structure doesn’t really work well. Even something as basic as guilds in most MMO’s would be far better than what we have right now.

      • vlad
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        That’s already kind of happening. the main two communities are lemmy.world and lemmy.lm. And since different instances can defederate from each other that can cause the same echo chambers we saw on reddit. Here’s a list of everything you can’t see if you’re on lemmy.world: https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=lemmy.world

        Thankfully you can go out and make an account on an instance like lemmy.sdf.org that doesn’t block anything but I don’t think it’s a perfect solution.

    • vlad
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      That’s already kind of happening. the main two communities are lemmy.world and lemmy.lm. And since different instances can defederate from each other that can cause the same echo chambers we saw on reddit. Here’s a list of everything you can’t see if you’re on lemmy.world: https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=lemmy.world

      Thankfully you can go out and make an account on an instance like lemmy.sdf.org that doesn’t block anything but I don’t think it’s a perfect solution.

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      I suspect powermods are more of a myth than reality, but I agree we should be concerned with any instance becoming the defacto site for Lemmy.

      I think the best way to avoid this is already in motion (though slowly), which is to have smaller topic instances which house the topic in its entirety and don’t have as many users (for example there is one for Star Trek and one for Android already). This way, regardless of your instance you still have access to the topic.

      That’s just my 2 cents, anyways.

      • HobbitFoot
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        Powermods exist, but they are important to how Reddit functions.

        They effectively act as a knowledge base on how to moderate large subs. They know how to use a lot of specialty software to moderate large subs and will typically act as a lightning rod for other mods on unpopular decisions.

        They also get drunk on power, but Reddit never provided for a better way to control their communities. Of course, technically neither has Lemmy, yet.

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s quite interesting.

          To be honest, I was never active enough to encounter a power mod; but I suppose anyone could go overboard trying to protect their community (even if they wind up doing more harm than good). Without having encountered any power mods, it’s hard for me to say what percentage fell into that category.

          In your experience, did the level of power of the mod seem directly proportional to their level of overboardness/corruption?

          I apologize if the answer seems obvious. I keep hearing about the power mods, but since I’ve never seen one in action, I would certainly like to learn more.

          • HobbitFoot
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            In your experience, did the level of power of the mod seem directly proportional to their level of overboardness/corruption?

            No, but they did have their bad days and being a mod of large groups can be very damaging to a person’s sanity. For those who were kicked off, I saw it less as getting what they deserved and more as them getting the break that they really needed.

  • @[email protected]
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    The narwhal bacons at midnight, or whatever the fuck it was. Just ask people if they’ve heard of Lemmy lol, we don’t need some code phrase