• Ulrich
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    3 months ago

    Reminder that all AMD’s “AI” processors require soldered memory.

    Also they already made an appearance in the Framework desktop. It’s garbage.

    • @[email protected]
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      113 months ago

      No they don’t, but the ones with the 8050S do. That’s the tradeoff. If you don’t want a soldered chip (the cpu is also soldered to the mainboard) buy the lower tier but same gen APUs with normal iGPUs, like the ones in the Framework 13.

      • Franklin
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        13 months ago

        I wonder if CAMM modules will ever take off, I’ve always been told the reason soldered memory exists was to cut down on latency.

        now I know that’s probably bullshit to some extent and more away to sell people on the higher tier SKUs

        but I know moving off of existing technologies carries cost that companies might not want to bear

        • Ulrich
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          3 months ago

          CAMM has been around for years at this point and I’ve only seen them in a couple devices so, no, I don’t think so. They still can’t match the speed of solder either.

        • @[email protected]
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          53 months ago

          The Framework CEO said in a QA that AMD engineers did a simulation of this APU with CAMM and that they’d have to cut the memory bandwidth by half to make it work.

    • Domi
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      33 months ago

      That’s incorrect.

      The Framework Desktop features soldered RAM to achieve the DDR5-8000 speeds. The Framework 13 caps out at DDR5-5600 but has regular DIMM slots.

      • Ulrich
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        13 months ago

        You didn’t say anything to indicate that I was incorrect.

        • lazynooblet
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          43 months ago

          You said they require soldered RAM. But the framework 13 doesn’t…