.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”
Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.
I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.
I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?
No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.
I want as few Palestinians to fear for their lives as possible. I wish Trump hadn’t won the election and promised to turn Gaza into a US colony. Now it’s only going to get worse. I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure. Now we’re stuck fighting Trump to make things worse slower.
I wish Trump hadn’t won the election and promised to turn Gaza into a US colony. Now it’s only going to get worse.
See? Here’s the problem, the Democrats were doing the exact same thing to Gaza, but you were a denialist when it was your team doing it. At least under Trump you actually acknowledge what’s happening (even if you still deny what was happening under the Democrats)
I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure.
Receipts? Because over a year of pressure didn’t get the Democrats to budge even one inch, and for the entirety of that time the “vote blue no matter who” crowd actively opposed that pressure while also engaging in denialism to defend the Democrats.
AIPAC had to spend 100s of millions to get Israel friendly democrats elected instead because they were scared the decent democrats would win the races and stop supporting genocide thanks to all the protesting people were doing.
It’s amazing how blueMAGA libs are incapable of talking about the Palestinian genocide in terms of actual Palestinian people. They can only think about it in terms of how it will affect Americans. 2,500,000 people being exterminated is forgivable, so long as the impotent domestic protests are being brutalized in the proper way.
Once again I still voted for Kamala, however that doesn’t disqualify me from critiquing underlying electoral systems. Fundamentally I belive Liberal Democracy is little more than democracy for the capitalist class.
Classic prisoner’s dilemma. If the ammorale westoid like yourself weren’t so prone to throw foreigners under the bus (aka collaborate or snitch), not voting becomes a viable strategy. But everybody have to play the game
But of course asking a coward to take a slight risk is way too much to ask
That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.
Ask a dozen people what “tankie” means and you’ll get a dozen conflicting answers. It’s a floating signifier for dismissing those to one’s political left. It’s a thought-terminating cliché rhetorical device.
Of course not: it’s a slogan that came directly from the fascist Banderites. Why would communists, who have shed more blood fighting fascists than anyone, adopt a fascist slogan?
I’ve never been called a tankie, and neither have any of my friends or girlfriends. And we’re all communists.
Maybe you’re being called a tankie because you’re a radical centrist.
Isnt radical centrist an oxymoron?
Yeah, supporting workers and dictators at the same time is pretty oxymoronic. But it’s perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I don’t think you know what communism actually is.
You too, hun.
.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”
Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.
You voted for the VP of a genocidal administration. You’re a piece of shit
I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.
Ohhh, so it’s the tankies who are responsible for this. That makes sense.
That reminds me of how Israel tells everyone that killing people is part of the Jewish identity, and then complains when people believe them
Biden and Harris sent litteral tanks to genocide arabs in gaza
You’re a tankie, you voted for someone who sent tanks to a genocidal regime, that makes you a tankie.
Now you can’t say you’ve never been called a tankie.
I’ve only ever been called a tankie by a tankie who was making some kind of point
But you have been called a tankie
Which is pretty suspicious honestly
I’ve got bad news for you…
I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?
Don’t you, like, run a hate community targeted at her?
No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.
Wow, I wish I didn’t care who the president was. I wanna stop fearing for my girlfriends’ lives.
Yeah, fearing for the life of loved ones should only be for Palestinians, right?
I want as few Palestinians to fear for their lives as possible. I wish Trump hadn’t won the election and promised to turn Gaza into a US colony. Now it’s only going to get worse. I wish we were fighting Kamala to make things better. She’s easier to pressure. Now we’re stuck fighting Trump to make things worse slower.
See? Here’s the problem, the Democrats were doing the exact same thing to Gaza, but you were a denialist when it was your team doing it. At least under Trump you actually acknowledge what’s happening (even if you still deny what was happening under the Democrats)
Receipts? Because over a year of pressure didn’t get the Democrats to budge even one inch, and for the entirety of that time the “vote blue no matter who” crowd actively opposed that pressure while also engaging in denialism to defend the Democrats.
AIPAC had to spend 100s of millions to get Israel friendly democrats elected instead because they were scared the decent democrats would win the races and stop supporting genocide thanks to all the protesting people were doing.
When Kamala was VP, pro-palestine protesters in the US didn’t get disappeared by the secret police.
Yup, at least with the democrats you can protest without being kidnapped into a van on the way to El Salvador.
It’s amazing how blueMAGA libs are incapable of talking about the Palestinian genocide in terms of actual Palestinian people. They can only think about it in terms of how it will affect Americans. 2,500,000 people being exterminated is forgivable, so long as the impotent domestic protests are being brutalized in the proper way.
But every time us pro-palestinian people tried to put pressure on Kamala we were called tankies. Are you a tankie?
Refusing to vote is how you end up with the worst arrogant politicians who dont care at all about their constituents.
Once again I still voted for Kamala, however that doesn’t disqualify me from critiquing underlying electoral systems. Fundamentally I belive Liberal Democracy is little more than democracy for the capitalist class.
Classic prisoner’s dilemma. If the ammorale westoid like yourself weren’t so prone to throw foreigners under the bus (aka collaborate or snitch), not voting becomes a viable strategy. But everybody have to play the game
But of course asking a coward to take a slight risk is way too much to ask
Meanwhile kamala was sending litteral tanks to israel lmao
Yeah but caring about that apparently makes me a “single issue voter” and a “tankie”, liberals are absolute jokes
That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.
Hmmmmmmmmmm… nah. It’s from the 1950s. They didn’t have 9gag back then
Again:
But also: JFK Files Reveal CIA Role in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising | The tankies were right
So you’re a tankie in real life?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Ask a dozen people what “tankie” means and you’ll get a dozen conflicting answers. It’s a floating signifier for dismissing those to one’s political left. It’s a thought-terminating cliché rhetorical device.
And none of those dozen answers will correspond to how any of them actually use the word
Tankies dont say slava ukranini!
Slobber uranium
What’s a ukranini? Like a Ukrainian panini?
Also I want peace and prosperity for all people of Ukraine and I’ve been called a tankie lots of times
Russia needs to completely pull out of Ukraine then you will have peace.
I want peace and prosperity for all Ukrainians.
You want to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian
We are not the same
Of course not: it’s a slogan that came directly from the fascist Banderites. Why would communists, who have shed more blood fighting fascists than anyone, adopt a fascist slogan?
Jacobin, 2015: Who Was Stepan Bandera?
I never even heard the word tankie outside of reddit / Lemmy lmao