It’s the walled garden thing that gets me. At some point, people got complacent. I’m 100% confident that there is an entire swath of the population which has never considered that Discord is a corporate entity with corporate interests. We made open standards for a reason.
But remember: the design and initial implementation of the internet was paid for by the populace. It is supposed to be filled with cool and useful, free stuff.
Corporate interests and “web 2.0” have turned it into a weird hellscape of misinformation and targeted advertising. It was not designed for it.
Everyone I know is like this. They love the corpos because their stuff is shiny and easy, and shoved in their face so they don’t have to learn anything. They have no clue how to use anything that isn’t Apple music, discord. Instagram, Snapchat etc. All garbage.
Sure. But the costs for implementing such a thing are certainly above simply using the tools on the platform on which the dev has decided to release their work. If they disagree, don’t release it there.
This idea that the consumer should do something additional besides giving you money is a nonstarter.
Back in ye olden days you’d have your own website, a blog, or maybe a forum. It was indexable on Google and anyone could see and interact with your updates. If not for that there’s always steam.
It was never good from the start, as a voice chat program, it’s miles behind ts3 and mumble, never liked discord, isn’t that what gamer pedo’'s use to get in contact with younger kids anyway?
Idk why you’re being downvoted since everything you said was right.
I think it just got popular because younger gamers don’t know how to use computers, and Discord was easier to use than everything else. The client also looks much nicer than mumble, and overall has better on boarding. The mumble homepage for example looks like a developer site.
You’ll be surprised but a lot of young and not so young people find discord too difficult to use, they can’t wrap their heads behind the server concept
Nah, it was pretty good when I used it some years back. I stopped using it before all of the nonsense people are complaining about, so at least for me I have a pretty positive perception. I even pushed to use it at work, which was awesome for productivity until my boss (the CEO) switched us to Slack, which was still decent, but a little crappier than Discord at the time.
I don’t know how it is currently because I actively avoid it for a variety of reasons, but it was pretty good at the time.
Once Discord enshittifies, lazy devs won’t be able to say “follow our Discord for updates!” anymore.
Hopefully they move to element
Hopefully they just post updates on the platforms they sell their games on. I shouldn’t need to sign up for anything else.
Anyone remember websites and RSS? Those were the days.
Why does everything have to get shovelled into someone’s walled garden…
(Speaking about updates and notifications here, not discussions.)
It’s the walled garden thing that gets me. At some point, people got complacent. I’m 100% confident that there is an entire swath of the population which has never considered that Discord is a corporate entity with corporate interests. We made open standards for a reason.
Hard agree. Mindsets stuck in 2005 or before when cool and useful stuff was, just, free online. We were such summer children then.
Anyone still like that obviously shouldn’t be in charge of anything sharp or dangerous…
But remember: the design and initial implementation of the internet was paid for by the populace. It is supposed to be filled with cool and useful, free stuff.
Corporate interests and “web 2.0” have turned it into a weird hellscape of misinformation and targeted advertising. It was not designed for it.
Bring the internet back to 03 please. I beg of you
Everyone I know is like this. They love the corpos because their stuff is shiny and easy, and shoved in their face so they don’t have to learn anything. They have no clue how to use anything that isn’t Apple music, discord. Instagram, Snapchat etc. All garbage.
Matrix?
I’m guessing so, since Element is perhaps the most popular Matrix client. There are others though.
lol what, Discord enshittified years ago.
I’m a lazy dev and want to get ahead of this, where should I post my updates?
RSS
On whatever platform(s) you sell your games. The key is not expecting someone to sign up for a different service for your updates.
Or just have an open forum/place where you don’t need an account to get into some walled off bullshit.
Sure. But the costs for implementing such a thing are certainly above simply using the tools on the platform on which the dev has decided to release their work. If they disagree, don’t release it there.
This idea that the consumer should do something additional besides giving you money is a nonstarter.
rss?
Back in ye olden days you’d have your own website, a blog, or maybe a forum. It was indexable on Google and anyone could see and interact with your updates. If not for that there’s always steam.
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…bluesky?
Github (and alternatives), Fediverse, Reddit, Matrix
Maybe a blog like homepage powered by Cloudflare or Github
Do not use Reddit, it’s too ban happy
So what if you get banned? The person responsible should (IMO) create a dedicated account for that anyway.
I’d post as long as possible and if banned, I’d create an appropiate information on any other communication channel.
Email group
Who indexes that?
Can I view it on archive.org?
There are plenty of mailing lists with web-based archives, like lkml for the Linux kernel. Find a mailing list host you like and go to town.
Lol “once Duscord enshittifies”. Bro… It happened years ago.
It was never good from the start, as a voice chat program, it’s miles behind ts3 and mumble, never liked discord, isn’t that what gamer pedo’'s use to get in contact with younger kids anyway?
Idk why you’re being downvoted since everything you said was right.
I think it just got popular because younger gamers don’t know how to use computers, and Discord was easier to use than everything else. The client also looks much nicer than mumble, and overall has better on boarding. The mumble homepage for example looks like a developer site.
I got downvoted because 90% uses discord and I said only pedo’s use it to groom children ( which tbf is a bold statement)
But accurate, Roblox and Discords willful negligence has been cited dozens of times, they don’t care.
You’ll be surprised but a lot of young and not so young people find discord too difficult to use, they can’t wrap their heads behind the server concept
Nah, it was pretty good when I used it some years back. I stopped using it before all of the nonsense people are complaining about, so at least for me I have a pretty positive perception. I even pushed to use it at work, which was awesome for productivity until my boss (the CEO) switched us to Slack, which was still decent, but a little crappier than Discord at the time.
I don’t know how it is currently because I actively avoid it for a variety of reasons, but it was pretty good at the time.