Discord is just another social media site that has a whole lot of people fooled into thinking it’s not creating profiles on them for advertising. Gonna get real obvious real soon though.
I guess thats OK for community dev teams and stuff - like it works well, users can come and accesa the faq or support and leave. But it can leave a walled garden of data in there if they want to move elsewhere later though.
Larger issue is the people that share their whole lives there as a quasi-Facebook. That’s all getting hoovered up and sold to the highest bidder - alongside data like exactly what activity you do on your PC (processes running when and where for how long etc - Discord monitors a lot)
The names escaping me but there’s a site you can use that turns your discord into a publicly accessible website / archive.
Check out mautrix-discord too if you’re a server admin, you can puppet everything there and switch seamlessly.
Uh oh.
Big uh oh. We had a good run though
Did we tho
Yeah, discord was very fun in its early days until 2020 and covid. 😆
They’ve been saving your data that whole time to feed into language models.
What a lemon!!!
Once Discord enshittifies, lazy devs won’t be able to say “follow our Discord for updates!” anymore.
lol what, Discord enshittified years ago.
I’m a lazy dev and want to get ahead of this, where should I post my updates?
RSS
…bluesky?
Back in ye olden days you’d have your own website, a blog, or maybe a forum. It was indexable on Google and anyone could see and interact with your updates. If not for that there’s always steam.
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Github (and alternatives), Fediverse, Reddit, Matrix
Maybe a blog like homepage powered by Cloudflare or GithubDo not use Reddit, it’s too ban happy
So what if you get banned? The person responsible should (IMO) create a dedicated account for that anyway.
I’d post as long as possible and if banned, I’d create an appropiate information on any other communication channel.
Email group
Who indexes that?
Can I view it on archive.org?There are plenty of mailing lists with web-based archives, like lkml for the Linux kernel. Find a mailing list host you like and go to town.
On whatever platform(s) you sell your games. The key is not expecting someone to sign up for a different service for your updates.
Or just have an open forum/place where you don’t need an account to get into some walled off bullshit.
Sure. But the costs for implementing such a thing are certainly above simply using the tools on the platform on which the dev has decided to release their work. If they disagree, don’t release it there.
This idea that the consumer should do something additional besides giving you money is a nonstarter.
rss?
Lol “once Duscord enshittifies”. Bro… It happened years ago.
It was never good from the start, as a voice chat program, it’s miles behind ts3 and mumble, never liked discord, isn’t that what gamer pedo’'s use to get in contact with younger kids anyway?
Nah, it was pretty good when I used it some years back. I stopped using it before all of the nonsense people are complaining about, so at least for me I have a pretty positive perception. I even pushed to use it at work, which was awesome for productivity until my boss (the CEO) switched us to Slack, which was still decent, but a little crappier than Discord at the time.
I don’t know how it is currently because I actively avoid it for a variety of reasons, but it was pretty good at the time.
Idk why you’re being downvoted since everything you said was right.
I think it just got popular because younger gamers don’t know how to use computers, and Discord was easier to use than everything else. The client also looks much nicer than mumble, and overall has better on boarding. The mumble homepage for example looks like a developer site.
You’ll be surprised but a lot of young and not so young people find discord too difficult to use, they can’t wrap their heads behind the server concept
I got downvoted because 90% uses discord and I said only pedo’s use it to groom children ( which tbf is a bold statement)
(which tbf is a bold statement)
But accurate, Roblox and Discords willful negligence has been cited dozens of times, they don’t care.
Hopefully they move to element
Matrix?
I’m guessing so, since Element is perhaps the most popular Matrix client. There are others though.
Hopefully they just post updates on the platforms they sell their games on. I shouldn’t need to sign up for anything else.
Anyone remember websites and RSS? Those were the days.
Why does everything have to get shovelled into someone’s walled garden…
(Speaking about updates and notifications here, not discussions.)
It’s the walled garden thing that gets me. At some point, people got complacent. I’m 100% confident that there is an entire swath of the population which has never considered that Discord is a corporate entity with corporate interests. We made open standards for a reason.
Everyone I know is like this. They love the corpos because their stuff is shiny and easy, and shoved in their face so they don’t have to learn anything. They have no clue how to use anything that isn’t Apple music, discord. Instagram, Snapchat etc. All garbage.
Hard agree. Mindsets stuck in 2005 or before when cool and useful stuff was, just, free online. We were such summer children then.
Anyone still like that obviously shouldn’t be in charge of anything sharp or dangerous…
Bring the internet back to 03 please. I beg of you
But remember: the design and initial implementation of the internet was paid for by the populace. It is supposed to be filled with cool and useful, free stuff.
Corporate interests and “web 2.0” have turned it into a weird hellscape of misinformation and targeted advertising. It was not designed for it.
they’re gonna make it a million times worse putting the activision blizzard guy in charge.
Please tell me you’re joking. I was just beginning to like some of the discord communities I’ve joined over the years.
Fuck that guy, seriously. Activision already ruined WoW, which I sincerely liked a lot for a very long time.
sadly no it was mentioned in here: https://www.theverge.com/news/654594/discord-new-ceo-jason-citron-humam-sakhnini
Ugh. Typical corporate bullshit.
Fuck IPO imminent
Does revolt have screen share with audio? What about noise filter?
There guess the chat app.
LLMs are about to get a whole lot more edgelord.
We need a decent replacement for this, stat. Once they go into IPO mode it’s gonna get real shitty, real fast.
Oh wow, it can get shittier?
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Thanks user!
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You’ve got upper management written all over you.
Close!
I used to compile all the high level analytics and projection reports for all the Vice Presidents and Board Members, but they didn’t even notice when I corrected a massive category of double counted revenue within a month of taking over from the person whose position I was taking over.
After a year of being absurdly overworked, doing the job of half of the IT department for them, so that I could actually access the data I needed, being hilariously underpaid, and becoming far, far too well versed in passive aggressive, buzzword heavy, actionable information empty, corpospeak…
I left for greener pastures.
(not Discord lol. did contract db admin type work for MSFT for a bit, then said executive reports for a massive import export firm… then nonprofits, serving the homeless)
I feel like it’s been shitty for a decade… personal view though, clearly people like it
Edit: well, for almost 10 years, maybe 9.
From a functional perspective it’s fantastic but it doesn’t make up for the incessant ads (even if you pay) and the lack of any privacy whatsoever.
Are you talking about the ads for nitro?
I don’t even remember exactly what they were for, but yes, that’s one of them.
clearly people like it
It’s the network effect that people like, just like every other social platform before it.
Same boat as many Gapps like Google Maps. No large market competitor to show users how much better it can be.
Google Maps
Edit: one interesting thing about their mobile app is when you use the GPS for directions, it changes where the audio comes from depending on what your next direction is. If your next is “turn left” then the instructions come from your left-side car audio.
The UI/UX has always been absolutely atrocious.
It is the LEAST intuitive UI of any popular app I’ve ever seen. I was recently trying to join a channel from a website that required a code to input, and absolutely couldn’t get it to work.
I HATE the UI. It was made for iPad babies.
Yess, thank you. Ugly, slow, frustrating. And pay to make it bearable…
Hold on, I’ve got 6 updates since you opened me an hour ago.
You can wait right?
It isn’t even a decade old… anyway, it got market share for a reason. It was immediately a big step up from other free offerings in ease of use, UI, and eventually in features too.
Revolt?
It’s open source too.
This is them going into IPO mode.
Matrix is a reasonable replacement.
Matrix is still pretty jank
how come?
(currently dont have the energy to look into replacing that too with all the other services im already in transition)
UI/UX is just miserable at times, sometimes the client crashes if you’ve seen too many image/videos. The account creation and device pairing is jank as hell, took me more than 15 min to pair a new because the verification kept failing. Just overall i can bear with the jankiness but if i was an average user, I’d quit.
teamspeak are also stepping up their game ive heard
The comeback. I paid for a teamspeak server when I was a teen and used it extensively with friends for many years. As I got older I have only used discord a handful of times to talk to other people already on that platform. Discord has always sucked Imo, if it’s free you’re the product. That’s how it always has been.
I hope it gets even more shit so people will leave the platform.
Yep lol, golden parachute deployed!
… For the pilot.
Passengers are still in the plane, lunch cart just came around!
Sorry, what is a IPO ?
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Thank you
We already have TeamSpeak/Ventrillo, and I think IRC is still a thing?
I already left, enjoy it for me.
Mumble?
Matrix for chatting, when we need voice chat we use ts3. Been using it for so long now, I don’t understand the problem why people dont use it
You can integrate Jitsi to your Matrix too. If you have a client that supports it, you get both chat and voice in the same place.
We need fast voice chat though, i play tournaments for cs2 and apex legends. Haven’t tested jitsi speed yet vs ts3 or mumble, which was the main reason we never used discord to start with
I must admit I’ve never reamly benchmarked any voice chat application. One advantage Jitsi does have is the ability to do p2p calls, saving a couple dozen milliseconds of transfer time compared to going through the server. But how fast is the software itself? No clue.
Wait, there’s actually humans working at Discord? I thought the entire thing was run by bots.
“working” lol. He’s the founder and CEO, he collects most of the money.
Hey bruh u wanna buy nitro bruh. It’s the new shit bruh
What the fuck does Nitro even do, other than give you some useless emoji?
Increased file attachment sizes (10->50->100MB depending on tier, I think).
Cross post emojis from any server you are on.
Cross post stickers from any server you are on.
Higher maximum server count.
One free server boost.
Probably a couple more vanity shit. Yep, entirely laughable business model.
What exactly does a server boost do?
Similar to nitro for a user, but for a server as a whole. At various levels it add features to servers. Bigger files, more sticker slots, Banners, animated server icons, higher quality streaming, more options for invite links and how they appear…
Thanks!
The different tiers are 50mb for basic and 500mb for the full.
The full one also includes:
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Stream video in 4k at 60fps
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2 free boosts and 30% off all boosts
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Custom profile per server(different name, avatar, etc. for each of if you want)
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200 server limit
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4000 character message limit
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Custom entry sound(and custom sounds everywhere)
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3x free nitro for two weeks that you can gift to people
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Tons of profile/avatar perks including animated banners, profiles, permanent quest rewards, badges, etc.
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There’s also some discount in their shop.
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I like it, it’s just extra stuff and nothing essential.
It’d suck a lot more if they gated necessary features behind a paywall
Give it another year.
Start shopping for replacements now.
Now some dipshit is going to ruin it with capitalism
I got nitro for higher audio quality so I could stream background music while running a DnD campaign over discord.
It also increases your streaming resolution and file upload size limit which is quite useful.
It also lets you use emojis from any server in any other server, which isn’t “useful” but is fun and I do it all the time.
For these 3 things I think it’s worth it. It’s worth noting I have a grandfathered Nitro plan that is more features than “Nitro Basic” but less features than the next tier at a cost that’s in between.
The real enshitification I’m worried about is the gradually increasing prevalence of ads in increasingly prominent places.
I got nitro for similar reasons but would up cancelling when discord sent ads to a friend of mine with my screen name on it, “why not join your friend _____ with nitro” or something.
Absolutely not, don’t use my name to shill to people I respect.
Bro got replaced by some ex-Activision-Blizzard MBA zombie. Humam got 86’d/golden parachuted from Blizzard after only <2 years as “Vice Chairman”. Then a 1-2 yr gap.
Humam about to get another massive bag once labor force is cut, platform further enshittified, and corp books are sufficiently cooked/prepped for IPO.
Humam - like human, but not really.
Kind of like how Marcus Persson was almost a person?
Rob Zombie: More Humam than hu-man! He left Activisiioooonnnn!
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Let’s be real, the enshitification started quite some time ago. Though I do expect it to get much worse.
Yeah, you are not even paying for minutes yet
Uh oh.
