• @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    When not tipping doesn’t change anything, choosing not to tip doesn’t have any effect other than harming your server.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      Part of my goal is making them quit and find a better job with a consistent income, even if outside the industry. This would positively benefit their life and the industry as a whole. This is what will end tipping and what anyone who disagrees with tipping culture should do.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        If you’re serious about this: consider verbally and physically abusing your servers, lying about them to management, applying the methods outlined in the CIAs manual for disruption of organizations and even stoicastic violence.

        Surely you could be doing more to hurt your server enough that they find a job you approve of!

        For anyone reading this comment: if you don’t tip you’re a bad person exhibit a.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          My goal is not to make all employees quit any and every job. I only want those unhappy with unreliable tip based income to quit, and I want them to communicate that with their employer.

          If someone is happy with optional tipping, then I don’t want them to quit. But such a person should have no real problem with a $0 tip since they support optional tipping, right?

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            It must be so difficult to make the decision wether or not to tip then, since you need to extensively vet your server before even ordering.

            That is of course unless you don’t make sure your server is unhappy with their tip based income and is communicating that with their employer before you don’t tip and are simply looking for a cover for your antisocial behavior.

            Only bad people don’t tip: exhibit b

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              Sorry, I don’t follow…can you clarify? I already pointed out that if someone were unhappy with optional tipping then they wouldn’t have any reason to be upset with someone deciding to tip $1000 or $20 or $0. That’s what optional means, having an option. So anyone who would be upset by an optional tip of $0 must be unhappy with their inconsistent tipped based income, obviously.

              Because honestly it’s really not a hard decision at all, I just literally never tip.

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                22 years ago

                If part of your goal is to make them quit but you only want people who are unhappy with their tips to quit then you gotta target the people who are unhappy with their tips otherwise your not tipping will make someone who is otherwise happy with their tips to become unhappy with their tips and you will have actively harmed your otherwise perfectly fine server.

                You can always just admit that the justification you used is a cover for your antisocial behavior.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    02 years ago

                    Why do you need a cover if it’s optional?

                    Why can’t you just say “I refuse to tip and I don’t care if it harms people I directly interact with”?

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        2 years ago

        part of my goal is making them quit and find a better job with a consistent income

        Doctoring up your selfish position is one thing but to make it sound like a service is insane.

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            2 years ago

            Complaining about tipping culture and then giving money to the people who perpetuate it while shafting employees making $2.15/hr in an effort to end it is truly insane.

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              22 years ago

              How the fuck am I supposed to know you make $2.15? And more importantly, why in the fuck would you ever agree to that?

              A wage that low would literally be illegal in my (presumably more civilized) country where minimum wage is well over $12usd currently, servers included.