I’ve noticed a lot of posts asking how we’re going to vote, and people coming in trying to shame people for not voting for Biden, or any candidate in the general election at all.

So I’m curious and, asking in good faith, want to know - what will make you stop voting for Biden?

  • Kaplya [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Biden having a worse policies against minorities than his Republican opponent, which is impossible.

    Otherwise both parties are functionally the same. The system is designed to punish those who abstain, so voting for Biden is still our best shot to protect the minorities, all else being equal. Hopefully this can hold out until 2028 when AOC runs for president.

    • Helmic [he/him]
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      332 years ago

      Isn’t AOC pro-Israel here? She’s been recuperated even more than Sanders, and Sanders won’t even call for a ceasefire.

      • Kaplya [none/use name]
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        Sure, but in the absence of a revolutionary movement, AOC is still the best shot America has in terms of moving closer towards socialism. Please don’t tell me an AOC presidency is not at least 100 times better than the most “moderate” Republican candidate.

        • Autonomarx [he/him]
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          192 years ago

          Your claim is wrong because the chance of AOC moving the US towards socialism is 0, exactly the same as Biden or Trump. The US is fundamentally undemocratic. I can see the argument for a Dem presidency (particularly for the climate) but positioning it as somehow revolutionary instead of just voting for PSL, CPUSA, or even the Greens seems unjustifiable to me.

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            222 years ago

            Seriously. What has AOC ever actually done. She’s not even pretending to be progressive anymore she’s clearly just angling to be this generations Pelosi.

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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              212 years ago

              AOC couldn’t even do the bare-ass minimum and just support the rail unions, an act that would not have killed Biden’s anti-labour bill. She couldn’t even pull a basic symbolic act in solidarity! It’s mind-boggling to see someone here buying into her obvious bullshit.

              • Adkml [he/him]
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                212 years ago

                Literally the hardest decision she makes is if she’s going to look sad or stoic while voting for exactly what the DNC tells her to.

                • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                  182 years ago

                  I guess it’s obviously working if there are self-described leftists on hexbear who still believe she’s gonna move anything towards socialism internet-delenda-est

                  • Adkml [he/him]
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                    92 years ago

                    To their defense, socialism is when the government acts like it really wants to do stuff but is hamstrung by procedural issues.

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          82 years ago

          by the time hes done theyll be in those cages for 12 years thats an entire fucking childhood jfc

          and ill get to hear from the libs about how biden gilded the cages i really hate this world

      • Kaplya [none/use name]
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        22 years ago

        If Trump wins, he’s not going to reverse that. As I said both parties are largely the same. But at least Biden is not openly campaigning on reinstating Muslim ban and openly endorsing LGBTQ+ folks getting murdered by right wing psychopaths.

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          132 years ago

          uh, the state is actively pushing the “hummas is ready to sneak in and do terrorisms on your panera bread” narrative so think again

          all while they sit around and do jack shit about abortion and anti trans legislation all over the country this is support via accepting the status quo my person

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      192 years ago

      The o ly difference I’ve seen between Trump and Biden is when Trump was president liberals pretended to support stuff like BLM because it was grassroots energy against the republican establishment.

      Now it’s a dem president those same libs are telling those same minorities to shut up and stop complaining because they’re making them look bad and everybody complaining is actually a secret Russian republican.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      212 years ago

      Biden having a worse policies against minorities than his Republican opponent, which is impossible.

      Biden literally has Trump beat on deportations, police hiring/funding and now genocidal wars against Arabs

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      132 years ago

      hold out until 2028 when AOC runs for president.

      They will never allow her to run. They will ratfuck her like they did Bernie, and if they don’t ratfuck her that means they co-opted her and she’s a sellout