I’ve noticed a lot of posts asking how we’re going to vote, and people coming in trying to shame people for not voting for Biden, or any candidate in the general election at all.
So I’m curious and, asking in good faith, want to know - what will make you stop voting for Biden?
If he’s dead
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I think Biden could make Donald Trump his vice president that might do it
I’m not actually voting for him, it’s just what I tell liberals now because I just don’t believe there’s any point in engaging anymore.
I’m not sure anyone here is voting for Biden, chief
Maybe on lemm.ee or .world you’ll get some answers, but here we do not
blue no matter whoI know. It’s just been feeling like a lot of bad faith people coming in to vote shame and I wanted to know if they had a line for an acceptable president.
I’m voting for pigpoopballs
don’t worry they all came in here to get dunked on anyway
Someone more effective that Biden wins the primary election with politics I agree with.
This isn’t a game. The republican candidates are horrible people and Project 2025 is a death knell. But we all know this.
Edit: OP was asking in good faith. Every comment so far is a bad faith response. I don’t have any interest in interacting with any of you.
But if it was Biden v trump, what action would he have to take for you to abstain from voting? I figured you wouldn’t vote for trump - I don’t think anybody on Hexbear will unless they’re going for accelerationism or are in a blue state.
I mean…it’s basically less evilism, as y’all like to call it.
Yes, I’m fully aware that Joe Biden not only didn’t stop the deportations along the border, but actually increased them. Yes, I’m fully aware that Joe Biden’s response to Israel is so weak as to literally alienate the entire Arab world against the U.S. (as if they weren’t reasonably already). And yes, I’m fully aware that Joe Biden is old af and really should be dead at this point. Every criticism you have of Joe Biden I’m likely to agree with.
But, for me (which is to say, this does not apply to everybody, only me), it’d be practically evil to not vote for Biden. These last few elections have basically been a “Did you stop beating your wife” kinda of situation with no room for pausing to unpack how fucked up it all is. So, I’ll answer yes, I did stop beating my wife, rather than say I’m continuing to harm the love of my life.
So, what would he have to do for me to abandon him? Well, a turn to the blatant authoritarianism of the Republicans would be a start. Abandoning his clear adherence to the rule of law to get shit done, would also do it. Basically, the more he becomes a modern Republican, the less likely I’ll vote for him, In other words, the more the loaded question becomes a baseless assertion, from asking “Did you stop” to just saying “You’re definitely beating your wife and now you’ll rot in jail forever”, makes it far less likely I’ll see any difference between them.
For the record, bathing in Palestinian blood would definitely be a deal breaker.
Abandoning his clear adherence to the rule of law to get shit done, would also do it.
Rule of law in America is only the rule of the bourgeoisie. Where is the rule of law in his response to Israel? Oh right, it’s the rule of Israel’s law.
Rule of law in America is only the rule of the bourgeoisie
In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.-Anatole France
Where is the rule of law in his response to Israel? Oh right, it’s the rule of Israel’s law.
Do you think I disagree? Israel is able to flaunt international law because of Joe Biden’s non-response and the support of the United States in general. And it is Israel who is directly morally responsible for the death of Palestinians (and probably Raytheon/Lockheed Martin). Ultimately, Joe Biden is tangential to the fact that the Israeli government is misanthropic and murderous. Do you think a strong condemnation would stop Israel from invading Palestine? Because that’s more foolish than anything I believe.
Do you think a strong condemnation would stop Israel from invading Palestine?
In your own comment, you already named Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, the AMERICAN companies that are directly enabling the genocide.
who was asking for a strong condemnation, we were asking for them to stop giving Israel weapons! The power is literally in the US’ hands!I think that Israel is only able to exist thanks to its benefactors giving it billions in military aid year after year, so there’s no sense acting like Biden’s hands are tied when they are firing rockets made by America’s MIC.
Sanctioning Israel, while imminently deserved, would be political suicide in the U.S. It would be functionally indistinct from just literally slapping Netanyahu and calling him a bitch.
Literally slapping Bibi and calling him a bitch would a.) Be very funny and b.) Possibly create an off ramp for the brewing Israeli civil war.
Sanctioning Israel would be rad, but it would also fracture the western economy. I’m not saying sanction Israel, I’m saying just turn off the endless spout of money going from the US to Israel in aid and instantly-forgiven “loans” and so on.
But beyond that, I think it would be good to not let neoliberals dictate to you what is viable. If this dude had some epiphany and became an anti-Israel politician, he’d take the stance supported by the clear majority of the country. If he loses re-election, who cares? He can demonstrate how powerful the zionist character assassination machine is and retire both rich and much more beloved than he will be here in our reality.
You can’t just wait for the establishment to give you permission to make transgressions, you need to make them and keep making them until you have established new norms. Of course, Biden is the establishment, so he is part of the problem rather than part of the solution, which is why I’ll vote for PSL or whatever.
Biden didn’t give a “non response”. he’s not ambivalent and ignoring the situation. He SUPPORTS Israel, he will not even entertain the idea of a ceasefire. He is taking an active role in genocide.
Abandoning his clear adherence to the rule of law to get shit done, would also do it.
In general? Like, if Joe Biden became the Dark Brandon meme over night and started drone striking US Senators that didn’t approve of climate change legislation and started packing SCOTUS with radical leftists you’d be against that?
packing SCOTUS with radical leftists
Like…packing the Supreme Court with…the literal Marxists? Fuck no, I wouldn’t be against that. God, to watch a legal Marxist challenge Clarence Thomas on the fake, ephemeral historical analysis of originalism would be breathtakingly beautiful in its absolute devastation.
if Joe Biden became the Dark Brandon meme over night and started drone striking US Senators that didn’t approve of climate change legislation
Okay, that’d be bad.
you think the lives of a handful of the shittiest people on earth isn’t a price to pay for averting the millions of deaths caused by those same shitty people blocking meaningful actions to undo the damage humanity has done to our environment?
Sweetie, it’s not just their lives we’d be sacrificing, it’d be the nooooorms and the noooooance! We need to vooote climate regulations in, not use the same means of securing political goals we use every time a Latin American president nationalizes a natural resource!
lmao I thought you were OP replying for a hot second, you gotta spell it sweaty next time
to watch a legal Marxist challenge Clarence Thomas on the fake, ephemeral historical analysis of originalism
You’re thinking way too small.
Maybe arrest Thomas for his blatant corruption. Or after Dobbs, order the federal government to ignore it and tell states that if they pass anti-abortion laws you’ll cut off federal funding. Can’t find anyone to do these objectively good things? Saturday Night Massacre the bureaucracy until you do.
So Biden denying the Palestinian death toll doesn’t count as “bathing in Palestinian blood” cause where I’m from that’s what that looks like
But that’s just a metaphor. And it’s like saying not mentioning the abduction of women on Native American reservations is living in their house. It’s only convincing if you already agree with it. Nor does it actually prove anything. It’s good for an applause light, but you’re not really making an argument, you’re merely equating two disparate things. I don’t agree with the definition, so I don’t buy that he’s bathing in any blood.
Furthermore, denying the Palestinian death toll makes sense to me in some circumstances. Relying on Israeli counts of it makes no sense in any circumstance.
It’s not a metaphor, (also your example is called an omission not a metaphor) and he didnt do any omission his admin straight up said there are no red lines in terms of how far Israel’s military campaign can go and denying death tolls adds to that approval and complicity, that’s called genocide assistance and denial
FUTHERMORE he didn’t deny the Israeli counts (whatever the fuck that means) he denied the numbers coming from the Gazan Health Ministry which is UN affiliated and internationally recognized as reliable
Abandoning his clear adherence to the rule of law to get shit done, would also do it.
If following the rule brought you to this, of what use is the rule?
The rules are pointing us off a cliff. They have no intrinsic value.
I read your entire response and appreciate your answer. I’m glad we can agree that Biden is at least shitty.
I also appreciate you taking personal ownership of your moral reasoning behind your vote. But I think the personal connections you have to your vote may be missing some broader context.
This stuck out to me:
Well, a turn to the blatant authoritarianism of the Republicans would be a start.
I feel that ‘authoritarianism’ as a term feels reductive. It’s a term used to describe a politician’s behavior instead of specific actions that we can assign morality. Providing weapons in another country or withholding support during a domestic crisis are more specific and can better crystallize what is wrong with a government or politician. In media narratives, ‘authoritarian’ is used to criticize without looking at the material changes that happen.
I think if Biden used the full force of his legal executive powers to do things to undo the harm of trump’s presidency, that would be considered authoritarian and would be an unprecedented display of political power. I also think that would be a welcome and appropriate action to take.
You also used the word ‘blatant’ and I thought that was significant too. Trump was blatant with a lot of the shit he pulled in office. Appointing people with awful track records and making speeches that threatened people were blatant. However, ‘blatant’ is subjective.
What was blatant to you with trump was a reality a lot of people experienced before 2016 and after 2021. For me, what changed was aesthetics. Biden didn’t have to say anything to keep the cages open. He didn’t have to do much to let Roe v Wade get overturned. He could say he condemned the decision and then not have to do anything because that would be authoritarian. He felt no strategic need to undo trump’s actions and so he didn’t. He’s just not saying the quiet part out loud.
It’s definitely a fucked up situation we’re in, but Biden won’t save it, nor will the party who props him up even now.
Also, the adherence to the rule of law seems like a shaky standard given the people in charge of making the laws. Shakier considering how often legal loopholes come out of the woodwork to prevent meaningful policies from happening, like the parliamentarian. I’d only be okay with the rule of law if US law was in any way fair or just.
Abandoning his clear adherence to the rule of law to get shit done, would also do it.
So if he were to actually start being effective?
“Did you stop beating your wife”
when she used the safe word
The republican candidates are horrible people
Meanwhile Genocide Joe is actually a saint
Every comment so far is a bad faith response.
We can tell when we’re being a lil stinker, it’s funny you read it as bad faith.
Now that I’m home on a full keyboard, let’s commence the entertainment, shall we?
A bad faith response (because, not a single comment so far as an argument) puts words in my mouth, like
So as long as Biden “If there wasn’t an Israel we’d have to invent one” isn’t literally bathing in the blood of Palestinian children he’s still the lesser evil?
or
Meanwhile Genocide Joe is actually a saint
I didn’t say either of those things.
Oh I’m actually a bad faith actor, but the Democratic party support GI (genocide indigenous) Joe and any candidate they put forward will too. Anyone that doesn’t say they’ll bring their client state to heel is a war criminal that should probably be hung.
Now that I’m home on a full keyboard, let’s commence the entertainment, shall we?
absolute fucking reddit moment.
this is all a game to meNew site tagline.
How do we submit them lmao that is fucking gold
Now that I’m home on a full keyboard, let’s commence the entertainment, shall we?
What a fucking line, the Reddit energy is off the charts
put on a fedora and call me “m’lady” you fucking coward
Now that I’m home on a full keyboard, let’s commence the entertainment, shall we?
Oh here we fucking go.
I didn’t say either of those things.
About every environment with contested conversations involves restating someone else’s position in a less favorable light. Not using your word-for-word comment is not putting words in your mouth; that’s how normal discussions work.
You said the Republican nominee would be a horrible person, with the obvious implication that Biden is better. The comments you’re complaining about are pointing out that Biden is a horrible person as well – a substantive argument.
Cool, so when Biden (or the next guy) loses because our electoral system is inherently flawed, I assume you have plans in place to deal with that right?
Word. They’ve been lesser eviling for fifty or sixty years, never having any conception of an off-ramp, and now they’re swearing allegiance to the ultimate and final evil, knowingly, willingly.
So as long as Biden “If there wasn’t an Israel we’d have to invent one” isn’t literally bathing in the blood of Palestinian children he’s still the lesser evil?
You really think they’d balk at voting for him if he was literally bathing in the blood of children?
Why is Project 2025 a “death knell”?
It’s not. One of these days I need to do a post on why this whole Project 2025 thing is fake. It’s a “plan” that sounds like it was written up by a 15 year old that has no idea how government bureaucracy works. If it actually is a plan and not a DNC op to scare people into voting, it’s not going to actually work.
The idea that you can switch out bureaucrats with party loyalists is a joke. If the CPSU couldn’t do it, then the GOP sure as hell won’t pull it off. Bureaucracies just don’t work that way.
Idk about the new crop of weirdos, but the old gop wanted to gut the federal government until it could no longer function as a regulatory enforcer. They made it like 85% of the way there before being mostly shut out by the evangelican fascists.
If it actually is a plan and not a DNC op to scare people into voting, it’s not going to actually work.
it’ll work when the democrats do it five years later as a gesture of bipartisanship
goes into askchapo comm
“I don’t have any interest in interacting with any of you”
Are you lost?
Lost? No. Misguided? Probably. Foolish? Definitely
What am I supposed to take away from this?
What am I supposed to take away from this?
As long as someone more effective and observably better than Trump is running and polling well they have your vote?
Edit: apparently the above question was in bad faith. I thought it was TOO charitable to the completely spineless sentiment in the comment I was replying to, but I guess I forgot that anything less than complete capitulation before the
bloo no matter whoo crowd is bad faith.Actually, you’re not too far off. You did put words in my mouth, but you’re basically correct.
Didn’t mean to put words in your mouth, just trying to capture how your position plays out in practice because I prefer to argue based on concrete reality instead of vague principles.
My issue with your position is that the American political establishment has been bilaterally inching closer and closer to embracing fascism, with both Republicans and Democrats rallying around the flag and collaborating in every imperialist project. The differences between the parties amount to genocide of the brown, queer, and poor now, vs genocide of the brown, queer, and poor later (and with a human face). Repeatedly voting for the lesser evil is what brought us into this position, because the only representation those minority groups have ever had is a party that didn’t truly make any progress for them except when politically convenient, and has held them hostage with the same “lesser evil” logic. When these vulnerable groups are held hostage, no progress can be made by moving to the left, because too many people are too scared to rock the boat and try an actual progressive option. Because of the broken electoral system, and the inherently flawed nature of democracy under capitalism, participating in democracy as the only means of political action is a dead end and nothing but a waste of energy.
Instead, what I, and many others in this site, believe is in the participation in the electoral process only as a means of legitimizing the other side of political struggle which takes place on the streets. Mutual aid, agitation, strikes, and other forms of political action building toward a socialist revolution is the only path toward social and economic justice. There’s already been a century of leftists trying to entry their way into American political institutions through elections, and if we’ve achieved any progress at all the progress is swiftly dismantled in times of economic crisis in favor of privatization and reactionary policies. The time for lesser evilism has passed a long time ago.
You said
Repeatedly voting for the lesser evil is what brought us into this position, because the only representation those minority groups have ever had is a party that didn’t truly make any progress for them except when politically convenient, and has held them hostage with the same “lesser evil” logic
Make it convenient, then. What you and others already believe does exactly that:
Mutual aid, agitation, strikes, and other forms of political action building toward a socialist revolution is the only path toward social and economic justice.
I don’t think participation in the electoral process is mutually exclusive with mutual aid, agitation, strikes, and other forms of political action. Moreover, as the far right has demonstrated quite convincingly, it is easier to commandeer what already exists than to invent it anew. I believe support of political leaders would make it easier to facilitate social and economic justice, at least in the United States. But it’s not the only method that matters, and, again as the far right has demonstrated, not even the most important one.
It actually bothers me a lot that leftists don’t really have large networks of parallel institutions like the right does…
There’s already been a century of leftists trying to entry their way into American political institutions through elections, and if we’ve achieved any progress at all the progress is swiftly dismantled in times of economic crisis in favor of privatization and reactionary policies.
Not all of it though (yet). I mean, before the Great Depression, social security didn’t exist. It’s still around even has it has come under attack in these times of manufactured (it’s always manufactured) economic crisis. So, why has that one stuck around while others have fallen away? What about progressive or socialist policies in other countries that have stood the test of time? How did their development progress over time such that they gained staying power?
These questions are more important and interesting to me than “How do we dismantle and rebuild everything”.
And if we have to start with Joe Biden vs Trump, then god damn it, Biden it is. And we’ll work from where we are and try to get where we want to go.
Make it convenient, then. What you and others already believe does exactly that:
Voting for Democrats no matter what does the opposite! You’re telling them that they can keep doing what they’re currently doing, passively accept Palestinian genocide (not to mention trans genocide at home), because you’re too scared of the stick to stop falling for the carrot. The only way we can “make it convenient” for Democrats to cede to our demands is to withhold our support unless they earn it with actual progressive policies. And that is especially true in times of crisis like now, because they need every vote they can get. Folding early and telling them we’ll vote for them no matter what is no way to wield power, it’s actually just giving up what little power we have.
I don’t think participation in the electoral process is mutually exclusive with mutual aid, agitation, strikes, and other forms of political action.
That’s true, and normally I don’t get mad at people for voting for Dems for this exact reason, you can definitely do multiple things at once. But if participation in the electoral process means you’re compromising with a candidate who is actively supporting genocide, it IS mutually exclusive with anything remotely close to a leftist position.
It actually bothers me a lot that leftists don’t really have large networks of parallel institutions like the right does…
The kind of thing that happens when the FBI blackmails, maligns, or straight up murders them all…
What about progressive or socialist policies in other countries that have stood the test of time?
Social Democracy is only allowed to exist in the interim period between crises of capitalism. It is, objectively and demonstrably, the moderate wing of fascism because without failure every social democratic party will side with fascists before they side with communists once their precarious state of being is threatened. Quoting Stalin from Concerning the International Situation,
but now that the proletariat is defeated, the bourgeoisie no longer needs fascism and can afford to use “democracy” instead, as a better method of consolidating its victory.
So my conclusion is, if you wanna be a well behaved little voter and keep settling for genocidal imperialists, go ahead, keep telling Dems that Palestinian lives are not worth enough to change their policy positions at all. After all, we might get someone even scarier if we don’t :vote:, someone who doesn’t respect the norms!
stfu redditor
Death to America
Glad to hear you’ll be giving your enthusiastic endorsement to genocide. Make sure to tell the guy whose kid just got blown up about Project 2025. It’ll definitely make him feel better
Nooo you don’t get it, it’s not a game and they’re a real adult in the room! They ran the model and plugged in the data, and
has an expected value of 2,999,999,999 innocent deaths while 
will cause 3,000,000,000!
I can excuse genocide, but if he decides to support Medicare for All, that’s where I draw the line
this entire thread is fucking wild
In a good way though, right?
He had my half hearted vote for pulling out of Afghanistan, but the genocide support killed it for me. Then Trump has been recently saying he’s going to purge all communists from the US… If it were coming from anyone else, I’d be alarmed, but he couldn’t command a coherent escape from a wet paper bag. It’s just his new ‘lock her up’. I hope they both die the night before the election.
afghanistan was trump anyway, the doha accord was signed in early 2020 and most of the withdrawal was done between election day and inauguration day
Yeah, and honestly good on Trump for moving the agreement forward, but I’m not sure he would have actually gone through with it. The shit show that was the withdrawal honestly went better than I expected, who knows how much of that was due to Biden though.
Geo politics wise, I kinda feel like Trump was marginally better, still a ghoul tho.
Biden does get a point for a little bit of student loan relief, and he’s not drumming up Nazi rallies… So that’s nice.
Trump helped develop the psychotic social structure that got my mom killed from COVID too. Not going to forgive or forget that…
I guess life under the Biden regime is a hair better, generally two hairs more peaceful domestically too.
But at the end of the day I’m white and decently established, so my day to day life isn’t impacted as much as others, even with me being trans. So I’ll be deferring to comrades who it does effect more and vote for harm reduction if there’s a common consensus.
Geo politics wise, I kinda feel like Trump was marginally better, still a ghoul tho.
I think people really underestimate how dangerous almost going to war with Iran a couple of times was.
I guess there was also the Bay of Piglets in Venezuela and the sanctions that Trump put in place on China that Biden has continued, and made even worse.
Fuk… He did so much insane crap I forgot about that. I feel like the invasion of Iran would have been the most humiliating defeat in history though… Until Trump decided that it was nuke time, which I could see him being excited to do.
Trump didn’t do it because it was the right thing tondonteump did it because he thought it was a poison pill for Biden.
He tried multuple tunes to start a war with Iran, that’s setting aside him threatening to nuke North Korea on Twitter.
Trump isn’t an anti imperialist he just mister magoo’d his way through not starting any more wars because he was too busy stripping shit for parts.
Nothing can stop me from writing in Hunter Biden.
I will be voting for Joe Biden because I’m in Australia and it’s a local city council election and I think it’s pretty funny.
Him being worse than the alternative. Electoralism won’t fix anything, though…
As a person living in Alabama, I think my efforts are best spent on trying to get ANYONE but Tuberville elected for our military members but that election isn’t until '26
I would vote for tuberville if I could, critical support for weakening and humiliating the US military inshallah
Why would you vote against tuberville he’s unironiclly done more to stop American imperialism than anyone else in my lifetime.
for our military members
they should quit
They should do little a mutiny, as a treat.
It is going to happen in the next 20 years.
Is guaranteed at this point due to how unhinged congress and the white house are progressively becoming. Is going to be necessary for the US to continue to exist, the Joint Chiefs are all extremely well educated in history (many have history PhDs) and are professional bureaucrats with the very real power to intervene with force if it comes down it. Unlike US political leadership who have all started to believe the propaganzied version of history the US pumps out for the masses, the very top brass at the Pentagon all are true believers with a sober deep historical understanding of empires stretching back to Rome. I remember during the Trump years how surprised both Democrats and Republicans were when they put on show-hearings grilling various top US military leadership who kept responding with statements about having read the full works of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and countless other historical figures.
It won’t be a communist revolution or even a rightwing military coup but will be to prevent the balkanization of the US while ensuring the liberal order and pax americana can continue in some form even if US political leadership are too propaganzied to continue running the empire.
This makes sense because unlike the kabuki theater that is US politics, they are part of the security state that actually runs the country, so they have not completely drunk their own kool-aid and do research on their enemies. However, the rot will eventually seep to them as well.
I remember during the Trump years how surprised both Democrats and Republicans were when they put on show-hearings grilling various top US military leadership who kept responding with statements about having read the full works of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and countless other historical figures.
Word. The scariest people in the world are fash and adjacent who have read socialist theory, understand it, and use that understanding for evil.
It won’t be a communist revolution or even a rightwing military coup but will be to prevent the balkanization of the US while ensuring the liberal order and pax americana can continue in some form even if US political leadership are too propaganzied to continue running the empire.
The POTUS gets marched in to a dark room, the lights come up to reveal the Joint Chiefs and instead of a video from the Grassy Knoll it’s a live feed of a predator drone circling the oval office.
I wish all the troops a nice long helicopter ride in the east Mediterranean
Biden having a worse policies against minorities than his Republican opponent, which is impossible.
Otherwise both parties are functionally the same. The system is designed to punish those who abstain, so voting for Biden is still our best shot to protect the minorities, all else being equal. Hopefully this can hold out until 2028 when AOC runs for president.
The o ly difference I’ve seen between Trump and Biden is when Trump was president liberals pretended to support stuff like BLM because it was grassroots energy against the republican establishment.
Now it’s a dem president those same libs are telling those same minorities to shut up and stop complaining because they’re making them look bad and everybody complaining is actually a secret Russian republican.
Isn’t AOC pro-Israel here? She’s been recuperated even more than Sanders, and Sanders won’t even call for a ceasefire.
Sure, but in the absence of a revolutionary movement, AOC is still the best shot America has in terms of moving closer towards socialism. Please don’t tell me an AOC presidency is not at least 100 times better than the most “moderate” Republican candidate.
AOC is still the best shot America has in terms of moving closer towards socialism.
what the fuck, lmao
Seriously. What has AOC ever actually done. She’s not even pretending to be progressive anymore she’s clearly just angling to be this generations Pelosi.
AOC couldn’t even do the bare-ass minimum and just support the rail unions, an act that would not have killed Biden’s anti-labour bill. She couldn’t even pull a basic symbolic act in solidarity! It’s mind-boggling to see someone here buying into her obvious bullshit.
Literally the hardest decision she makes is if she’s going to look sad or stoic while voting for exactly what the DNC tells her to.
I guess it’s obviously working if there are self-described leftists on hexbear who still believe she’s gonna move anything towards socialism
Your claim is wrong because the chance of AOC moving the US towards socialism is 0, exactly the same as Biden or Trump. The US is fundamentally undemocratic. I can see the argument for a Dem presidency (particularly for the climate) but positioning it as somehow revolutionary instead of just voting for PSL, CPUSA, or even the Greens seems unjustifiable to me.
real “oh …you’re serious?!” hours lmfao
Would you also say she’s doing what the union wants?
Do you disagree?
biden is building the wall and has deported more people than trump has
Four more years of families in cages.
by the time hes done theyll be in those cages for 12 years thats an entire fucking childhood jfc
and ill get to hear from the libs about how biden gilded the cages i really hate this world
If Trump wins, he’s not going to reverse that. As I said both parties are largely the same. But at least Biden is not openly campaigning on reinstating Muslim ban and openly endorsing LGBTQ+ folks getting murdered by right wing psychopaths.
uh, the state is actively pushing the “hummas is ready to sneak in and do terrorisms on your panera bread” narrative so think again
all while they sit around and do jack shit about abortion and anti trans legislation all over the country this is support via accepting the status quo my person
Biden sure ain’t doin’ much about all those anti-trans bills and shit, though, huh?
hold out until 2028 when AOC runs for president.
They will never allow her to run. They will ratfuck her like they did Bernie, and if they don’t ratfuck her that means they co-opted her and she’s a sellout
I for one am excited to hear people to tell me she’s hiding her power level.
Hid it so well she lost it
Biden having a worse policies against minorities than his Republican opponent, which is impossible.
Biden literally has Trump beat on deportations, police hiring/funding and now genocidal wars against Arabs
Draggin my balls on thr ballot call tjat the BALLot
I’ll be writing in Hilary Clinton. She’s the true incumbent and would easily beat trump now that the country knows how terrible he is.
It’s her turn, after all
