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FenrirIII to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 1 year ago

Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

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Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

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FenrirIII to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 1 year ago
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    do you believe in any situation where Russia is not defeated yet agrees to total withdrawal and reparations?

    anything is possible if cornel west is elected

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      West shares Trumps view of Putin and would allow to re-arm and attack again. Both are opposed to NATO which would lead to a US exit of NATO and a large proliferation of nuclear weapons as countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear safety net and would have to build their own. The only reason we have so few nations without nuclear weapons is the existence of NATO. West/Trump are a threat to humanity.

      • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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        West shares Trumps view of Putin and would allow to re-arm and attack again.

        you have no evidence for this

        • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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          Evidence: Russia completed the theft of Crimea(while denying their active invasion of it) and immediately built up forces for another attack while denying it would ever attack Ukraine again all the while talking about how Ukraine isn’t a real country. There is no evidence Russia will stop until it controls all of Ukraine as they have said they wanted to do many times.

          West and Trump want to trust Putin…a verified(many times over) liar and willing to break agreements and treaties at any moment.

          • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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            when did either of them say they trust putin? especially cornel west?

            • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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              Negotiating for peace implies trust that the peace treaty will be followed…otherwise why negotiate the treaty?

              • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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                Negotiating for peace implies trust

                right. that doesn’t mean that they have said they do trust him.

                • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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                  They haven’t said it but they would HAVE to do it to negotiate as they said they want to do. Yet Putin has proven himself untrustworthy over and over.

      • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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        Both are opposed to NATO

        for different reasons. I oppose NATO, too.

        • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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          Whats the alternative to a group agreement of protection and limit to nukes like NATO provides?

          • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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            abolition of states

            • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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              What do you mean? Abolition of the idea of sovereign countries?

              • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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                yes

                • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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                  Then just abolish violence. Just as easy.

                  • @hoosierHillPowderedCheese@midwest.social
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                    the existence of the state doesn’t abolish violence, so why should that be the standard?

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