i’ve seen this phrase used around here in a few variations and it rarely gets called out as problematic. i really don’t think its ok so i thought i’d ask: does hexbear think its ok? i can understand and support the use of violence against fascists and colonizers, but genocide is really their thing. i don’t see why it makes sense to use it even as a rhetorical device. why doesn’t this get called out? is genocide so normalized in casual conversation that it doesn’t register or what?
edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don’t like it or get it, but i’ve had my fill of arguing with y’all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i’ll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.
now that everyone has had a chance to chime in, i’m just going to add some context for y’all
most of the responses i got at first were from [he/him]s which is why i said the above. nothing against any gender, just what i saw.it wasn’t my intention to misgender anyone sorry if it came across that way. i really meant it as an observation of who was jumping in to reply at the start of the thread, but i didn’t realize how it could be perceived in other contexts.- i’m not american. i’m technically a US citizen, but i have much more significant cultural ties to SV, MX, and separately and to a lesser extent NA indigenous community. i don’t always get where western people are coming from. i like the overall tone of hexbear maybe i just don’t how imaginary genocide is supposed to be cathartic. i apologize if it came across like i’m trying to tone police y’all. that’s really not my jam, but y’all do seem a little pre-disposed to getting offended when your little jokes are questioned.
- i still don’t like the joke, so i’m going to remove them from my feed. if y’all don’t have an issue with it that’s fine. i was just trying to get a feel for what y’all think. the push back was a little upsetting after the day i had yesterday, but i’m over it now. i can live with curating my own experience based on my personal taste.
- i haven’t been that articulate, but i think my feelings are best summarized by this reply:
As someone that does find the joke funny, upon some reflection i have realised that it is an inapropiate joke, genocide is a horrific thing and to make light of it by making it a subject of a joke is in bad taste the same way that jokes about sexual assault are in bad taste, we rightfuly look down on redditors for the latter but allow the former
I completely agree with being uncomfortable seeing genocide in the context of even dark humor- the original
meme was funny (to me) because it was pointing out the similarities in demeanor between someone who would say that, and a 4chan basement dweller being congratulated with tendies for behaving ‘normal’ in public.Yes in-jokes can be funny but remove context things can quickly become hard to defend- and if an in joke is something which needs that level of consideration maybe that’s an indicator it shouldn’t be a ‘joke.’
On the scale of
to 
, where does 
and 
fall?I’m not shit posting on here to win hearts and minds. In the USian public, the reaction I get to telling people I’m a Marxist-Leninist is the same as I’d get shouting “anotha kkkracka down unlimited genocide on the first world”
death to america
What not reading Pedagogy of the Oppressed does to motherfuckers.
its been on my list. i’ll bump it up, but i don’t think it’ll make the joke funny.
Im with you. Never been a fan of that joke. Dont like edgy killing based humor in general.
god damn my hitler particle detecter is going crazy
y’all are really dying on the genocide jokes hill huh?
another kkkracker down
does “unlimited genocide on the global north” or other variations really sound like something you should say?
It’s pretty much a site-culture thing. No one actually wants to commit genocide on anyone. Honestly it sounds like you’re doing some bad faith concern trolling here, so you do you fam…
i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke.
Uh… there are other pronouns saying that. Are you trying to pull an AOC here? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
i put another note in the edit. didn’t mean to offend.
your edit doesn’t apologize for misgendering people.
that’s because i didn’t, i read the gender tags on the replies that were made on my post before i made the edit.
this though still reeks of horseshit, ngl.
God im so tired of the “site culture” argument. Just because its something we are currently doing doesnt mean its something we should be.
We have our own contrarian “don’t tell me what to do” impulse, and while it’s useful at times we have to learn when it’s not.
It doesn’t sound like something I should say, and I don’t say it in public, but I have to admit I feel warm inside hearing another person say it
…it’s more a emotivistic thing with a social, Wittgensteinian element: we say stuff we think others want to hear, and the harder we say stuff they wanna hear, the better we will have said itIt’s like not when I say “fuck Nazis” I am literally commanding my audience to go forth and fornicate with fascists
Not crazy about it but the global north has been doing genocide on the global south for five centuries. It’s not a meme. It’s reality.
yes a fascist meme you fucks
in case you didn’t understand calling for genocide is bad people stuff and it isn’t funny
does white genocide exist?
only whitened people call for genocide, stop being whitened. grow a real culture please. that’s all we ask. i know it sounds like everything you know would be destroyed, but that’s a good thing and you need to do it to yourselves. please.
only whitened people call for genocide, stop being whitened. grow a real culture please
Cultural genocide is still genocide. /s
i know it sounds like everything you know would be destroyed
so white genocide does exist, or?
i know it sounds like everything you know would be destroyed, but that’s a good thing and you need to do it to yourselves. please.
if only there were a slightly shorter way of expressing this exact sentence
just fuck off. clearly the majority are against me. i don’t need extra piling on thanks + i’m blocking your ass.
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Dude, I think ik what it is. And now i kinda agree with them.
You can’t genocide yourself. The first world has to change themselves.
Equating the radical change we need to a genocide is litterally what fascists are doing with the “white genocide” bullshit.
UGOTFW meme “ironically” uses the SAME false equivalence. In doing so, It ends up just actually reinforcing an idea fascists are trying to spread. I’m willing to give up the joke.
Yeah, I also agree. But I thought it was about the “third world” genociding the “first world”?
I get the sentiment of the joke, and the way that comedy is the vehicle of reversal for the developing-world’s vengeance upon the developed-world, but using the word ‘genocide’ is probably in poor taste both as a joke and as theory. I like and get jokes about people saying we need USSR-style gulags and purges, love a good purge, but someone saying ‘unlimited genocide’ is funny does feel fashy because that’s what fascists do and joke about.
That being said, I’m not above and I can see the value of a dark genocide joke as a throwaway, for example as a sardonic comment about what is happening in Gaza, but for it to become a slogan is a bit weird. Just my opinion. I don’t really mind too much either way, I just ignore it. We’re not always going to agree on everything.
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What that mean
It means I’ll get put in timeout by the thought police for SPEAKING MY DAMN MIND WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEDOM??? WHAT HAPLENED TO FREE SPEECH? FIRST THEY CAME FOR ME, AND THEN
THEY CAME FOR PPB AND THEN THEY CAME FOR YOU
They can have ppb
they’re saying OP is a wrekkker
Egon is mad they can’t wear this
So cool
I haven’t seen that here. Must not be as active on this site as I thought. But yeah I’m not a huge fan of that kind of talk. It isn’t constructive and is excessively edgy.
I’ve never liked it, even as a meme. Remember, the First World is also a panopticon prison for the poor and minorities.
¡Not all Global Norteños!
To me it’s about the Global North States, not the people, and especially not the proletariat. Maybe the capitalists get a little genocide, as a treat.
killing the capitalists (the ruling class) doesn’t meet the criteria for genocide, that would be a coup. which is totally fine and doesn’t require regurgitating fascist concepts. these toys are still available to do to quench your bloodlust
Unlimited regicide on the first world
Unlimited regime change on the first world
Unlimited coups d’etat on the first world
I kind of agree with you actually, trying to choose different words opens the door for more creative ways to describe beheading the leviathan.
Oh shit I really like the regicide one. This post feels like concern trolling and the OP clearly wants to pretend this is a male thing, but it opens the door for a discussion that’s maybe worth having
check my edit.
‘Coup the first world’ has a much cleaner ring to it.
So don’t use the word genocide, it’s that simple
big agree from me. i have a hard time understanding how this type of humor is acceptable on a leftist board. it gives big alt-right/channer vibes imo
I have a hard time understanding how this type of defense of the laughable concept of “”“”“white genocide”“”“” is acceptable on a leftist board. it gives big alt-right/channer vibes imo
you really need this huh? you’re shitting yourself because you can’t have this treat. indulge in a little genocide fantasy, its fine. its an impossible concept anyway, nobody could ever question it.
joking about genocide in general makes me uncomfortable and i wanted to know if hexbear was ok with it. clearly y’all are really into it. cool. thanks for making that crystal fucking clear.
you’re shitting yourself
clearly y’all are really into it. cool. thanks for making that crystal fucking clear.
Yeah this thread is a shitshow and Hexbear is really showing its ass right now
Hexbears showing a low tolerance for liberal bad faith puritanical scolding is us “showing our ass” really? Give me a fuckin break
I actually love the Slammer edits most of the time
I just think that “unlimited genocide” is taking it too far. I’m not the only one on the site that feels this way.Taking it too far in what possible regard? Are we being too mean to white identitarians? Are we too vicious to First Worlders who fear genocide by the global south and their leftie friends? Are we not taking their intersections of oppression seriously or something?
The joke is harmless precisely because it’s a ludicrous subversion of the real world phenomenon, which is first world genocide of the global south
It’s a defiant statement fueled by powerlessness which gives it an over the top comedic quality, that quality may or may not resonate depending on the context and who’s using the joke and why, but the idea it’s offensive or taking anything too far is sunday school mindset
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Oh yeah, one more thing. On account of the multiple trans men I know both online and off, I want to tell you to go fuck yourself. “Kill all men” is a garbage statement and you should be ashamed of saying it. If you think that “trans men don’t count” then you’re being transphobic and can go fuck yourself again. Trans men are our allies and if you can’t see that at the very least then you don’t deserve to be here.
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First comment ever and already lumping in radfem nonsense about men? Come join my study group where we actually read feminist theory about why empathy is important and how the patriarchy hurts us all. Or, if you think I’m cis scum merely for existing please consult the proper posting bureau.
I’m with you OP. I don’t think even joking calls for genocide are funny or productive. I’ve been here a long time and wasn’t aware of the comic meme the line references.
That said, I’m older and more boring than most of the user base here so I don’t expect everything on the site to be for me.
its not really about “it being for me” more like i don’t understand how its supposed to be funny. i’m not expecting the site to change for me, but i do appreciate the discussion that’s happening here.
Yeah I hear you, you have to squint pretty hard to imagine that jokes about genocide are actually woke.
Yes it does. Try saying it sometime.
it’s not very funny but it does express a cathartic sentiment of hatred that few other phrases do. The hyperbole of it juxtaposed against certain minor infractions such as Wendy’s having a twitter account sometimes makes me laugh.
Tbh, it’s overused and low effort, and feels the same as when people here say ‘another krakkker down’, when they are a krakkker themselves. Pretty dweeby.
As far as offense caused by it goes, I don’t really care. My people have been genocided before. By surname and blood I would be subjected to genocide again if anti-semitic Nazis had their way.
To call for a genocide upon the global northern states is practically akin to when pigs fly.
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Im a kkkracker and the cia still ahsnt armed me sadge
