“Yes I want to be part of a proletarian mass movement but liking sports is normie boring low-IQ primate brain behavior” -statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    It’s aight. Watching high doesn’t make it better and watching it alone sucks cause all the ad breaks

    I played a lot of sports though, and you can even go solo to a pick up game

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    10 months ago

    There is nothing wrong with liking sports, sports are cool and fun and can be healthy social events. For someone who is a casual sporting event enjoyer, sportsball discourse is kinda rude and minimizing of their interest.

    There is a lot wrong with defining your entire identity around sports and acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum when others don’t also base their entire identity around sports. It is for those people that sportsball discourse is not only suggested, it is mandatory, because those people should be shamed into doing something useful with their lives. This is doubly true for people who base their entire identity around some specific subset of sports and who reject any sport outside of that subset. If smacking ball with stick across grass can be a sport then pretty much anything can be a sport.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      1110 months ago

      Yea it’s seems like an obvious statement but people dont generally have a problem with people liking sports, they have a problem with people who cannot healthily moderate their emotions.

      Obviously there’s some of the pretentious holier than though types but they’re literally just on reddit from everything I’ve seen and reddit says downhill skiing is irresponsible and selfish because it’s too dangerous and they do t understand how it could be enjoyable.

      • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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        510 months ago

        downhill skiing is irresponsible and selfish because it’s too dangerous

        Yes, driving to a mountain is incredibly dangerous and that’s why the ski train must be seized by the workers

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          710 months ago

          My town literally just celebrated the 100 year anniversary of the snow train that bought tourists to town that kicked off skiing in the area.

          They’d get off the train and locals would charge a nickel to drive them to the top of the mountain and it would take them all day to ski back to town.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      1410 months ago

      everyone’s always “media literacy is ruining tv” and never “media literacy is ruining sports fandom” even though both are true.

  • regul [any]
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    2410 months ago

    Watching sports is a fun thing to do with your friends.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    610 months ago

    centrist if you like sports, you do you. idc.

    that said, it does turn many people into goliras, no not the ball part, the competition part. nerd there should be a study comparing monke monke-rage behavior with e-‘sports’ vs traditional sports.

    • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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      510 months ago

      you’re at your job where you want to build a union and your coworker asks you “did you catch the game last night?” what is your reply

        • Yeah, i have been around people who like sports all my life and this is the go-to. Let’s them talk about the game, and gets me up to speed of a game I honestly don’t really care about, but that it’s nice that gets people excited about.

            • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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              310 months ago

              a lot of people are more socially inept than you think and don’t have many conversation starters

              • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                1310 months ago

                THE GAME being the patriarchy approved “normal” topic that ALL MALES MUST be able to have a conversation about in order to be socially acceptable is toxic as fuck. The way your turning it around to say poor smol bean hegemonic culture enjoyers don’t know what else to talk about is kind of true, but that doesn’t make it any better. If anything its another example of how patriarchy hurts men as much as women.

                Just to be clear, the problem isn’t sports but patriarchy. This may be less of an issue outside the US. Hopefully its not as bad in the US as was, but i doubt it

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1510 months ago

            I mean, that would be an extremely maladjusted behavior on the coworker’s part. It’s not like I write off the possibility of befriending or even talking to someone because they don’t consume my slop.

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            If the price of building socialism is having to pretend to like sports for the rest of my life then I’ll just have to resign myself to capitalist hellworld

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    2310 months ago

    there are two wolves inside me. one hates sports. the other hates people that hate sports.

    do more sports, don’t go insane watching.

  • queermunist she/her
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    10 months ago

    Sports have degenerated into gambling though, the masses are being addicted and bled dry by algorithms. Not to mention the already horrible alcoholism.

    Sports aren’t inherently bad, but under capitalism they certainly are.

    • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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      10 months ago

      that’s a good point in the past few years the gambling has sapped a lot of fun out of it. can’t even talk about sports online without some punter moaning about how their parlay didn’t hit.

  • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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    10 months ago

    yeah it’s one of the most annoying things I still see on here from time to time. thankfully it’s mostly passé these days. passionately hating sports is way more tedious a personality trait than loving them, just keep it to yourself tbh.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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    910 months ago

    Okay I am locking this, it has devolved into both sides of this argument just talking past each other and heading into hostile territory.

    Learn to play nice online all of you.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1010 months ago

    I’d rather not have a flag-humping military-worshiping head-injuries-are-basically-expected with consequently-lifelong-behavioral-problems-and-domestic-violence-from-participants side of sports, or at least one minimized as much as possible no matter how much such damaging spectacles excite the hogs conditioned to expect them.

    Even so, I may as well tap the sign considering how this already predictably went:

    • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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      710 months ago

      it seems like a lot of comments here are implicitly talking about US football but there are a lot of other sports out there, people generally don’t care whether you’re into their sport as long as you’re into some sport

        • Inui [comrade/them]
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          610 months ago

          Badminton was literally the only sport I enjoyed as a teenager and would be willing to try playing again today sadness Hitting floaty objects with a racket is fun.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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            510 months ago

            rn at my work they are selling these led light up badminton sets and I kinda wanna buy one. I used to play it at my grandparents house as a kid and I remember it being quite fun and playing it in the dark with removed bits while high as fuck would be awesome.

            • Inui [comrade/them]
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              410 months ago

              I don’t know if this is true at a high level, but I think for someone just picking up a racket, it’s a lot easier to play than something like tennis. The birdie really does float unless someone spikes it at you, so you have a lot of time to react to what’s happening and someone more advanced can pretty easily tailor their play to a newcomer.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        810 months ago

        people generally don’t care whether you’re into their sport as long as you’re into some sport

        That’s not any better.

        I don’t hate sports, but i hate a lot of the cultural brainworms around sports. I’m not sure if they’re as bad as they were when i was a kid, but they used to be awful. One of those is the expectation that if you were born male you MUST care about sports. You MUST be able to have a conversation about THE GAME. Obviously these things are deeply rooted in the enforcement of patriarchy. Patriarchy is the actual problem and the thing i hate, but you can’t ignore how sports (at least in the US - your country may vary) plays a role in that. That doesn’t nake sports inherently bad - they aren’t. But the status of sports as “this is the good and normal thing to like - and you must like one of them to be normal” is fucked

        • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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          310 months ago

          everyone on this site seems to struggle with irl social interaction and let me tell you being able to do basic sports talk is like playing the socialization game on easy mode

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            710 months ago

            everyone on this site seems to struggle with irl social interaction

            I don’t struggle with that. The idea that people who aren’t into sports are socially awkward is yet another toxic trope.

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            710 months ago

            Me: the expectation to do sports talk is a toxic cultural expectation of the patriarchy to enforce gender role confirmity.

            You: just do basic sports talk bro, it’ll be easier for you

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            610 months ago

            everyone on this site seems to struggle with irl social interaction

            That’s pretty presumptive of you, and even if it wasn’t, it sounds a bit like concern trolling and that’s not cool. What must be done to be “normal” and why must it typically involve marginalizing marginalized people further, if not outright self-harm?

            • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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              210 months ago

              I submit that if you ever meet somebody from the global south or any kind of actually proletarian class, the singular thing it would be possible to talk to & bond with them over, if language is shared, is sports.

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            everyone on this site seems to struggle with irl social interaction

            Yeah the site has a sizable neurodiverse community and we have spent all our lives being made to justify to others why we don’t just “be normal.”

            • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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              310 months ago

              I’m on the spectrum, the spectrum isn’t aligned against sports except under some archaic jock/nerd viewpoint. I know of at least a few big athletes that are out about being on the spectrum. Lots of special interest material to be found. Many sports, especially rock climbing & BJJ, that pair very well with neuroatypical makeup due to the huge depth of techniques to be learned.

              • BeamBrain [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                Okay but what if sports aren’t one of my special interests

                I mean I enjoyed parkour back when I was in the right environment for it but the average prole I’m meant to appeal to probably doesn’t know or care much about parkour

                • hypercracker [he/him]OP
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                  310 months ago

                  I would say that is fine, and was the case for me for a long time too, but don’t foreclose yourself to the idea that it could be one of your interests in the future.

          • Eris235 [undecided]
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            810 months ago

            You are right. But like, ‘learning to do sportstalk’ to help with ‘socialization’ (especially at work) doesn’t make me like sports. If anything, I kinda makes me think its dumber.

            But yeah, sports, beers/alcohol, guns, hunting, all classic ‘guy talk’ I’m decently good at, despite none being things I’m really into.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        people generally don’t care whether you’re into their sport as long as you’re into some sport

        I still find that attitude kind of toxic, but only roughly as toxic as le enlightened Redditors looking down their noses at sportsball while going bazinga for e-sports, which in some ways have become just an accelerated version of the most toxic fandom aspects of non-e-sports.

        Sports are fine, and should even be encouraged, but for fuck’s sake must they be concussionball with flag-humping characteristics?

        • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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          510 months ago

          Sports are fine, and should even be encouraged, but for fuck’s sake must they be concussionball with flag-humping characteristics?

          No they don’t need to be US football which should clearly be abolished but folks in this thread hyperfixating on how lame American football is are kinda missing the point.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            510 months ago

            I’d prefer the greater point to be the gambling and hypermonetization characteristics of Burgerland sports culture do the most public harm of all, even moreso than the head injuries of full-contact sports.