Freeze peach doesn’t mean you can call people "fag"s. By using that word you’re 1. insulting those who express their gender as they wish 2. calling us names

Also, my point is that there is precedent for laws to geopolitcally restrict open source. I agree that there is a real security issue.

sir this is a public fora, people speak as they wish?

As you know, they do not.

What? No: I am a graybeard, and I lived through those software embargoes.

How is this a conspiracy theory‽

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Dubliette is referring to the thought-terminating cliché that every major US party doesn’t want to abolish capitalism (the economic system centered around capital, private ownership, etc.), ergo we’re all liberals.

Not at all true. If you’re referencing US ideologies of Capitalism, holy shit are you wrong and read the wrong Wikipedia.

I am quite correct, though I am referring to liberalism in the general internationa sense. This is what liberalism always has been. You must understand it as what it is and has done, not what it tells you it is meant to be. As Stafford Beer said, it makes no sense to think that the purpose of something is what it consistently fails to do. The liberalism of the enlightenment had in its right hand brutal, racist colonial exploitation and in its left a ruthless industrial revolution chaining the people to factories and removing them from all commond and property. It is a product of capitalism itself.

In fact, the Democrats since the 60’s have run campaigns WAY against the threat of late-stage Capitalism.

The Democrats are a capitalist party and always have been. They do not work against capitalism at all, they support it and protect it. There is really such thing as late-stage capitalism, it is just capitalism developing over time, retaining most of its qualities but taking on new angles. Buy if it does mean anything, it means neoliberalism wrought by financialization, and that is Democrats’ main political base. It’s their main thing, especially as an export.

Republicans are the pro-capitalist party in the sense they want to privatize everything and help their friends

Democrats also do this they just tell you it is efficiency and “public-private partnerships” and “a generous endowment to a public institution” (that they can now defund). The charter school movement is largely Democrats, for example. They simply have different factions on their chopping block, different groups to pander to.

These are anti-capitalist ideas.

What ideas are anti-capitalist? I didn’t see any.

Come on back with some more Wiki links, good buddy.

No thanks. Read the political philosophers of the enlightenment, colonialism, industrialization and proletarianizatikn, the liberal revolutions in Europe, and who emerged to identify themselves as anti-liberal once those revolutions established their ideologies as mainstream, namely monarchists, fascists, socialists, and anarchists. You cannot gain a political education through Wikipedia, it is a Cliffs Notes approach to social topics often written by often incorrect or heavily propagandized (or propagandist!) People, including literal Nazi apologists.

In fact, the Democrats since the 60’s have run campaigns WAY against the threat of late-stage Capitalism.

Bruh what world are you living in lmao. Obama reached to bankers uncaringly tanking the global economy by giving them money to do with as they wished (and, as always, they wished to give themselves a bonus).