Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
My bingo card/wish list - Trump gets tied up in litigation/impeachment (first pres to be impeached 3 or 4 times…bring it!) until he is out of office (I suspect his Outlook is already set that way). Then, after, nobody says his name ever again because…let’s face it, everyone is just plain embarrassed that it happened - ®’s (D)'s, even whack-a-doo (Others … independent, green, what are those guys that think that everything is transactional…forget).
Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
My hypothesis: narcissistic people live longer, because they apply the placebo effect at all times to themselves.
I agree with your theory that narcissists live longer but I also think they suck the lives out of the people closest to them
Sooo… Narcissists are a type of vampire?
More like the Wraiths from Stargate Atlantis.
Yes, but not even the sexy kind of vampire
I think it’s simply due to stress. Most people care about people other than themselves. They worry about the effect of their actions on others. They worry about not living up to their potential. They worry about letting people they care about down. Narcissists by contrast get to live blissfully ignorant low stress lives. Look at Trump. That bastard has not a care in the world. In his mind, he’s already perfect. Notice how the presidency tends to rapidly age people, but it didn’t seem to affect Trump? This is why.
Yeah he’s golfing everyday
He’s stressed doing politics for an hour, so he’ll go golf for 4hrs. If anything, he’s getting younger.
You could really be on to something there. It scans
It scans?! Yar, I’ll be lootin’ this here phrase, matey!
Phrase is free, may simply take, comrade
It’s the mean granny rule.
And in that case, access to treatment not available to the general public yet.
I bet it wasn’t horse dewormer for him.
So he got the horse rewormer then. I think you’re onto something
It’s said that the good die young. That orange shitstick might be nearly immortal.
Mmm idk, personally I know a selfish POS that killed himself a few years out of college. Then again: every rule will have its exceptions.
One can only hope…
Keep sending him burgers and fries. Fried in lard too.
If he’s got dementia, he’ll probably die within 10 years of his first symptoms, and that’s been a while. It’ll still be too long, obviously.
There have already been attempts. Maybe the next one will succeed.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
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Range - Trump was over
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Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
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Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
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Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
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Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn’t use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don’t stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
He had a 2x optic on the rifle.
Not what I heard. But if that was the case then he was a worse shot than anticipated. He still came VERY close though.
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Half of me still thinks that whole “attempt” was staged
I also wondered that, but honestly man there’s almost no fucking way. 😂 That was a very real bullet, that went through his ear, and killed the man behind him. Combine that with all the different random-ass factors others have mentioned with the ludicrously small margin of error. Turn your head at just the right time or fucking die.
Combine that with the shooter being a random child that looks like he had fetal alcohol syndrome, that’s the “man” carefully staging a very near-miss shooting. 🥴 I mean FFS, look at his face. I wouldn’t trust him with a complicated McD’s order, let alone shooting at my fucking ear and not killing me. 😂
The only way it was staged was if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was very willing to die & become a martyr, which frankly I think he’s not against if it came to that, but it’s very clear the man loves life/living. Trump doesn’t want to die.
A bullet never went through his ear. The FBI amended their statement to say he was ‘grazed’ by a bullet or a bullet fragment, after initially questioning if he had been hit at all (because his medical team withheld all information from them during the investigation - which was unusual and suspicious). I mean you could see plain as day just a few weeks later when he removed the bandage his ear was almost completely undamaged.
Yeah, that was poor wording on my part, probably just because that’s the terminology I hear all the time. I should probably amend that.
It’s true, due to the nature of the ear being really close to the head, the bullet didn’t pierce a hole through his ear. I don’t accept the bullet fragment theory, idk, I don’t see very-very accurate bullet fragments mid-flight. The bullets themselves can tumble or do crazy patterns, depending on weight & caliber, etc. I think the most logical working theory is the fully intact bullet grazing his ear mid-flight. Ears really can bleed heavily even from small cuts/pimples, at least mine do.
On a semi-related note, you all can watch regular, interesting, and/or terrifying custom rounds traveling in HD slow-mo on this YouTube channel. I believe their slogan is, “You make it…we mach it.” 😂😬
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who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you
The idiot who looked into an eclipse?
Also all the blood. Then no damage on the ear a few days later. 78 year olds don’t heal that fast.
No one heals cartilage. Especially not a 78 year old dottering fool whose primary source of nutrition is McDonalds.
Even if it was a graze and only had skin damage. A 78 year old will have scars and bruising.
Exactly, there’s absolutely no way it grazed him at all with no skin damage, no cartilage damage, no scarring.
It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan
- Let trump do what he want
- Kill trump
- Put a puppet like vance in is place
- Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
I’ve been saying this for months. How long until 47 “has a stroke.”
Had some polonium tea, fell out a window, then shot himself in the back of the head.
Corner’s report: Looks like suicide to me.
No it needs to be a murder done by “those loony lefties”, otherwise they can’t use it to lock up people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
Twice
Fell down an elevator shaft, landed on some bullets.
Not sure why anyone would bother making it look natural/accidental?
If he gets assassinated, he becomes a martyr.
I would love to see it but the real change can only come from dems sweeping midterms.
There is a whole order of succession which empowers the christofascit VP and then christofascist house speaker, christofascist senate leader, christofascist secretary of state, etc.
There is a chance the cult of personality crumbles, but also a chance he becomes a martyr.
the only way the cult of personality is changing is if they start putting Thorazine in the drinking water
The cult of personality won’t matter once the Christian Nationalist movement takes hold.
Not likely enough
I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
Considering how the Trump Regime consistently fires anyone who is competent but DEI or not glazing Trump’s asshole, I think an assassin would have an easier time than usual.
It’s going to take a while to weed all the competent people out of the secret service.
But what happens when you tell trump how GOOD he would look in a convertible in a large parade?
He’d know what it would do to his hair, he’d never risk that.
“hair”
There’s a reason I didn’t say “hairs”. I believe he has one and it gets wrapped around and around and around and around and around…
i had a friend in the drama department in college. he was an idiot. he was one of those guys who got older every year but his girlfriends didn’t. a few years after we all graduated, we all went our ways. word made it through the grapevine one day because we all got google alerts. he’d been arrested by the feds, and not for statutory like we’d all first assumed. nah, he couldn’t get a job after college so he tried to convince an undercover ATF officer to engage in some light terrorism/treason as a way of blowing off steam. funniest thing is, my mom and that ATF officer’s wife go on vacation together like twice a year (they lived in my hometown for fifteen years, we’re friends).
uh, fuck. i’m sure there was a point to this story. if i remember i’ll get back to it.
i’m trying to remember if there was something about my idiot felon friend who i think is stupid enough to get tricked into being a patsy or something about my myopic but wellmeaning fed friend that was relevant. twas one or tother. i’m very tired an [8]. it may take me some time to figure it out.
No, the secret service did not screw that up. They told the Trump campaign they could not secure the area and the campaign ignored them. Trump is far dumber than Hitler. Hitler had people protecting him and he respected their work. Trump dismisses anything that mildly annoys or inconveniences him. He absolutely will be shot, we just have no idea when or what country will get credit for the kill.
What country would want him shot? He’s destroying the US more effectively than any enemy could ever hope to do.
Countries outside the US don’t see it as an enemy, but as a wealthy partner. Having that partner suddenly go insane and lashing out at its friends due to a malignant brain tumour is sad to see. They might well support surgery to remove the tumour in the hope that their former partner can one day recover.
What world do you live in where you don’t understand that the US has many enemies?
Sure it does, but most countries see the US as an ally and a valuable trading partner.
Many countries saw the US as an ally, they don’t anymore.
You are assuming it’s an enemy I was referring to. Trump is really hurting our allies and they are in a dangerous place right now because of him. He’s not stopping. He’s making other countries vulnerable. the fastest fix for them is if he dies.
The EU, UK, Canada, Mexico + Cartels, Taiwan, Japan…and Ukraine. There are a lot of people endangered by the Trump Regime, and would like this ride to stop.
Hitler, unlike Trump, fought in an actual war. If nothing else, that goes a long way towards respecting the power of violence - both to give and receive it.
A suicide mission might not be as much of an issue if someone’s entire life is in shambless due to economic collapse, no healthcare and God knows what else is cooking up over there in the US. I mean, you’re prolly very tight that the feds are on top of it, but human life can be pretty squishy, especially for a ca. 80 y.o. man. Someone could leave a carrot on the white house doorstep and he might trip and snap his neck, who knows.
But I’m more curious about the people who lose everything, are getting truly desperate, and have nothing left to fear.
Yeah, people forget that there are entire generations of Americans whose only feasible retirement plans are suicide or homicide
Or just, you know, death. 😂 No need to throw a “-cide” of any kind, enough of the time. I had a 50 y/o coworker die from cancer. Sad. Too soon. But he was worried about retirement…now he doesn’t have to. ¯\(°_o)/¯
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I perfer him to die from the bullet of his own in a bunker (or natural causes after creating a great recession), so that people can stop worshiping toxicity and learn from the mistakes.
If there is no Hoover, there probably will never be a Roosevelt and the new deal.
Jesus, I ask, “why is autocracy bad” and it gets removed. Yet, they let this FED bait wash over the community. Get fucked.
When that happens y’all are gonna need video proof that you last fucked your couch less that a week ago every time you leave home.
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Why would a billionaire be angry at Trump?
