Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.
But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.
Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.
Nah. The damage Trump has done can’t be undone.
Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.
I do hope so. The whole don’t buy american movement is just gonna pick up more and more. Once people realise that that’s the best course of action anyway, there is no going back.
Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google “jd vance never trump” and I’m sure you’ll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he’s “a never trump guy”.
Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.
Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he’ll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone’s guess.
He’s close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don’t they just get out like he did?) He’s young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.
That’s the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there’s a human in there we’ve never seen. Or maybe not.
YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
WE ARE NOT LUCKY TO HAVE A FUCKING HALF-DEAD RETARD AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ANY FUCKING LEVEL.
Your president is half-dead on a few levels sweetie.
Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn’t? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.
Tell that to the Christians. You might even say their leader dying sparked the whole thing.
It was much easier to fake a resurrection back then.
I mean… have you seen how good ML-generated videos are getting these days?
It’s also totally possible to survive on a cross for three days and for someone to take you down while you’re unconscious and put you in a cave.
We could make a religion out of this.
I think what you call “magnetism” is the balls to straight up lie to your supporters like they’re stupid. Seriously, I think Trump demonstrated that you can just say whatever feels good and people will accept it with zero regard for reality. That’s what was assumed false before Trump. I think they know the game plan now.
But he also says it stupid like them, in a way that can’t be faked. That’s why they love him. It’s the classic “wanting to hear your opinion in someone else’s voice”. They want to hear their shitty opinions in someone else’s voice. Except because they’re idiots, they get grammar and syntax wrong. Or they ramble through a dozen conspiracy theories in a single run on sentence. No one but trump can carry on the way he does (at least without a script).
Exactly this. Donald Trump has the Charisma to assemble a cult whereas then these other people can hold together the coalition. Everyone’s just writing Trump’s coattails so without him the whole thing just falls apart
This is misguided, the rubes will believe whatever the talking heads on Fox News or the algorithmic fuckery from x or reddit, etc
I don’t know if you even need the magnetism. Vance has shown he can lie just as bald-facedly As Trump does. For god sakes there was a time where the Republican hordes were carry ground cups of JD Vance cum or something. Does no one remember that? I wouldn’t be so sure they wouldn’t just transfer right to him.
Sure the cult does, but the dictatorship they left doesn’t fizzle out.
I agree but I believe that’s why his underlings are using him as a front to destroy all checks and balances so when he does fizzle out, they can keep control.
The only thing possibly holding them off is that there’s 2 or 3 factions all wanting to long knife™ eachother at the first chance, which means they have to be ready to go as soon as the power vacuum happens, and one of the factions controls the VP seat.
That might delay the chaos a bit, but not for long.
Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
Trump and the media have built a cult of personality around Trump. I don’t see how that power could transfer to another person, I can’t think of another person in the line up that has personality.
I disagree, and I’ll point you to down-ballot MAGA Republicans who are running and winning saying the same things. I strongly believe that this has nothing to do with Trump’s “personality”, it’s to do with what he was first willing to say and get away with. Nobody assumed you could get away with it and succeed.
So first kill Vance unawares, then kill Drumpf? Gotcha, noted!
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I don’t buy that.
Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.
You don’t have to beat around the bush, you can just say putin.
I haven’t thought of him. I think he has very different methods, and btw, Orange is already his puppet :)
I have thought about money-stuffed Americans (not only from the Us of) and Chinese methods.
I’m personally scared that you’re allowed to vote.
Not anywhere near you.
Where exactly are you allowed to cast a vote?
So scared?
Is this some USA defaultism I’m sensing
anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that.
And Putin
100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan
- Let trump do what he want
- Kill trump
- Put a puppet like vance in is place
- Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
I’ve been saying this for months. How long until 47 “has a stroke.”
Had some polonium tea, fell out a window, then shot himself in the back of the head.
Corner’s report: Looks like suicide to me.
No it needs to be a murder done by “those loony lefties”, otherwise they can’t use it to lock up people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
Twice
Fell down an elevator shaft, landed on some bullets.
Not sure why anyone would bother making it look natural/accidental?
If he gets assassinated, he becomes a martyr.
Time travelers already tried and failed. It’s a fixed point in time.
As long as he doesn’t try to make peace with Communist nations, our MIC won’t kill him like they did to JFK*.
- That’s now a fact since the Kennedy files have been released.
Praying every day to gods I don’t even believe in.
It’s okay they don’t believe in you either
I would question their omniscience if they did.
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What part of the multiverse are you from, friend? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch
to be fair, perhaps we are not in the worst of all multiverses. I would say my heart goes out to him, but… you know.
Those parents are a huge yikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
I think they were talking about one of the 2 shitty ones dying, David Koch. Isn’t Charles the other one?
I thought one had passed?
Martyrdom is an honour that Trump doesn’t deserve. If we are lucky, he will die in prison of old age.
We will never be lucky, so somebody shoot him now
You’re going to have a long list of next in lines
Then they can see Trumps fate as either a warning or a prediction. The maga cult is keeping politicians and judges from doing their jobs with the threat of violence and succeeding. There is no way out until the politicians are more afraid of us then they are of maga. Two more luigis would do more than a week of protests.
I’ll take assassination… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over. As far as prison goes … heh … never going to happen. Our justice system doesn’t send wealthy individuals to jail… especially ex presidents.
if we’re lucky, he’ll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.
Pretty low, considering the quality of the attempts so far.
I’d say there’s zero chance, he could probably easily outlive us all somehow.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Half of me still thinks that whole “attempt” was staged
Exhibit A: The Photo Op with the fist raised
I mean, who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you. It’s like they knew there’s only one gunman. Sus af 🤔
Also all the blood. Then no damage on the ear a few days later. 78 year olds don’t heal that fast.
No one heals cartilage. Especially not a 78 year old dottering fool whose primary source of nutrition is McDonalds.
Even if it was a graze and only had skin damage. A 78 year old will have scars and bruising.
Exactly, there’s absolutely no way it grazed him at all with no skin damage, no cartilage damage, no scarring.
who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you
The idiot who looked into an eclipse?
I also wondered that, but honestly man there’s almost no fucking way. 😂 That was a very real bullet, that went through his ear, and killed the man behind him. Combine that with all the different random-ass factors others have mentioned with the ludicrously small margin of error. Turn your head at just the right time or fucking die.
Combine that with the shooter being a random child that looks like he had fetal alcohol syndrome, that’s the “man” carefully staging a very near-miss shooting. 🥴 I mean FFS, look at his face. I wouldn’t trust him with a complicated McD’s order, let alone shooting at my fucking ear and not killing me. 😂
The only way it was staged was if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was very willing to die & become a martyr, which frankly I think he’s not against if it came to that, but it’s very clear the man loves life/living. Trump doesn’t want to die.
A bullet never went through his ear. The FBI amended their statement to say he was ‘grazed’ by a bullet or a bullet fragment, after initially questioning if he had been hit at all (because his medical team withheld all information from them during the investigation - which was unusual and suspicious). I mean you could see plain as day just a few weeks later when he removed the bandage his ear was almost completely undamaged.
Yeah, that was poor wording on my part, probably just because that’s the terminology I hear all the time. I should probably amend that.
It’s true, due to the nature of the ear being really close to the head, the bullet didn’t pierce a hole through his ear. I don’t accept the bullet fragment theory, idk, I don’t see very-very accurate bullet fragments mid-flight. The bullets themselves can tumble or do crazy patterns, depending on weight & caliber, etc. I think the most logical working theory is the fully intact bullet grazing his ear mid-flight. Ears really can bleed heavily even from small cuts/pimples, at least mine do.
On a semi-related note, you all can watch regular, interesting, and/or terrifying custom rounds traveling in HD slow-mo on this YouTube channel. I believe their slogan is, “You make it…we mach it.” 😂😬
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Range - Trump was over
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Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
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Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
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Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
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Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn’t use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don’t stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
He had a 2x optic on the rifle.
Not what I heard. But if that was the case then he was a worse shot than anticipated. He still came VERY close though.
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Darkest timeline, am I right?
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
When the rule of law has been abandoned then frontier justice makes an appearance.
Hitler survived 30+ attempts, so don’t count on it. The people running this simulation wants to watch us suffer.
Ok this might be my new favourite conspiracy
Our universe is a simulation created by a group of facists that are using us to research how they can gain and maintain power. If a successful fascist regime takes hold then the experiment will be over and the simulation will be shut off, the only way to survive is to continue to fend off fascisum.
I was watching an amateur video of him, not 500 feet away, on a golf course a few weeks ago. What do the kids say? Cooked? The last guy who almost got him by a few inches was a registered Republican btw. Of course it’s more likely that he dies to double cheeseburgers now. Sad that the ones who will replace him are arguably much worse than him.
It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
If youre in america, even as a tourist a few states allow you to buy guns because you dont need an id. That means, lets say a european goes to georgia for example, they could buy a gun and shoot trump without problem, in minecraft of course.
Bullshit - 100% fiction
Apparently never been to a Walmart.
Luigi used a ghost gun.
Some kid tried that from a rooftop already
In Australia that was the case until around 1987. No permits for rifles. Some tourist from Germany went to Australia, bought a rifle and went on a shooting spree.
As an American, the craziest thing about that story is that Australia changed their gun laws after that happened. Imagine a government taking reasonable action to save lives… Wild.
One must entertain the notion that maybe this was intentionally perpetrated to bring about those laws, disarm the general populace.
Could have been a lone gunman psycho.
Could have been a planned event, psy-op.
Like all the car crashes that now require us to get a driver’s license…; can’t mow down the government if you’re trained on the rules of the road!
People can’t just use tools that impact the lives of others outside themselves in peace; smdh…
While trying to be a smartass, you are unintentionally correct. Fun fact, driver’s licenses weren’t always required to operate a vehicle. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Smdh…indeed
We now live in cages, carefully crafted by laws & legislation over time. I am never shocked or surprised when governing powers place laws on commoners, anything to put their boot on our neck, nail down our identity for verification, or most importantly extract money from our bank accounts to give to the state to be wasted.
Smdh.
Not unintentionally correct…because that was my very intentional point.
In spite of car manufacturers claiming seatbelts and air bags were unnecessary, the sheer number of resulting deaths caused us to actually do something about it. I don’t look at the lack of driver’s licenses as anything approaching a rosy past. I will never be sympathetic to the argument that a lack of common sense safety regulations which saves lives somehow grants us more freedom (other than to abdicate all of your freedoms instantaneously via early death, which overwhelmingly impacts the poor and marginalized); sorry.
No, one doesn’t have to entertain any such notion. And, one speaking like a monk doesn’t make one sound mysterious or intelligent…
What you’re essentially saying is, we should let something terrible continue to happen, causing many real people (often children) to actually die, because some people are paranoid about something that isn’t happening… In reality, government’s need their civilians. Especially in late-stage capitalist societies were civilians act as value generators or cannon fodder for the ruling class. The more people they have to feed into their profit machines, the better.
There are many counter arguments to the sentiment you shared that show how silly your stance is. I won’t waste my time writing all of them because I think you’re too steeped in your own soup to consider anything that counters what you already believe.
FFL dealers can only sell to residents of states in which they are licensed to operate. It is unlawful for a resident of one state to sell to a resident of another state, without involving an FFL dealer licensed in the receiver’s state.
Has every state closed the gun show loophole yet?
Wrong
Will need to know which states, precisely. Because I don’t think that’s how anything works. This is a pure fictional hypothetical with made-up rules.
It probably isn’t hard to buy a black market gun, though; the laws don’t seem to stop the lawbreakers. Look at Chicago. 🙄
