Most smokers want to quit or at least they say they do.
I just watched Casablanca for the first time a couple of days ago, and as someone that hates smoking, I just don’t get how it came to be everywhere back in the day. Ingrid Bergman is probably the only non-smoker in the entire movie! Both her (breast, 69) and Humphrey Bogart (esophageal, 57) died of cancer.
Growing up with two smoking parents that’d both gladly hotbox their kids, my brother and I, when we drove anywhere was just awful. I really don’t get how you can do that to other people without feeling ashamed.Well, back in the day cigarette companies paid to be in the movies. This timeline puts it back to the very first “talkies” cigarette companies were already shouldering their way in and making sure that they were associated with sex and cool. Everyone was smoking on screen because films were big tobacco ads.
That first set of parenthesese were really confusing until I read the rest of the sentence.
“(breast, 69)” out of context does seem a bit 👀
For a second I thought you were making a disparaging remark about her being a woman!
For a split second I thought this was going to be a comment about a link between smoking and breast sizes (in some weird units).
Need to shit? Smoke a cigarette quickly and you will soon be shitting. Need to relax? Long slow drags of a cig will relax you? Need to perk up lots of short quick puffs will raise ypur energy levels (note do not do this if holding back a shit)
Add coffee for an even more enjoyable shit
Experiencing the constipation, stress, and fatigue commonly associated with a nicotine withdrawal? Try nicotine!
Dang, I should try these things out.
(joking)
I was in the military, and smokers got breaks.
It does have a felt effect, but is very mild. The thing is that the body loves nicotine, and even if you’re not consciously getting high, your body is getting high. That’s why vapes were able to become popular.
The body loves it so much, the smoke stops smelling bad to you.
And finally, the fact that it smells bad & keeps people away is a GOOD thing.
smokers got breaks.
When I quit smoking, I pretty much stopped going to parties, conventions, dance clubs, and concerts. Having an excuse to get out of the crowd and noise and decompress for ten minutes every couple of hours made “going out” so much more tolerable for me.
Don’t forget the nicotine fix.
Easy. Say you’re going for a smoke and then don’t actually smoke.
Did this at work all the time. I want to hangout and chat too
You and your rational solutions… You are clearly not addicted.
Yeah, chances are one day that’d lead to smoking again. Likely pretty quickly.
I’d rather smell like smoke than body odor after being in the field for a week or two with no showers.
I never did any of that stuff, but after what they have to do, I can think of few things, that you could do as soon as you got back, that would be better than a cigarette.
I (also military) used to grab a cup of coffee and bring it out whenever the smokers went out (though I had to start doing half a cup, because the smokers took a lot of breaks).
Then one chief established there would be no more “smoke breaks” for the smokers, but everyone would get regular breaks (and the smokers could take theirs outside). People (including the smokers who had been taking breaks all along) started making jokes about taking their “union mandated” breaks. And the smokers just went out twice as often.
Smoking is becoming cool again because seeing a 50 year old man vape is pathetic.
Yeah fuck him for switching to something not nearly as harmful.
You’ve obviously never been a smoker 🚬 sweet sweet nicotine, i miss u so!
I feel this so hard lol. I have never returned to smoking but vaping was such a ‘cleaner’ way to get a nic high. I tell myself that nicotine has power over me and if someone put a vape in front of me I’d hit it in a heartbeat
Still messes up your lungs though
I’d argue it’s worse. I’ve met people that never stop vaping. I’ve even know some sleep vapers.
I’d say if you used it as a 1 to 1 replacement for smoking it’s probably better, but if you hit it 10 times as often as you’d smoke a cigarette you’re going to be worse off
More quickly too, based on what I’ve read.
Fuck I miss cigarettes!
Besides the chemical addiction part, it’s also a genuinely social one as well.
Smoking areas are designated places where strangers talk to each other. Asking for a light or offering one is a super simple way to break the ice. My dad quit cold turkey several times but he always fell back into the habit hanging with his friends
Yeah, my coworkers take smoke breaks together and I genuinely think I missing some important socialization because I don’t smoke
Take a cup of coffee or tea and go with them. There are multiple modern addictions that you can choose from.
And be around people smoking? Disgusting
That’s actually very good advice
Take a sparkler to hold, so you can ask for a light
I never understood this argument.
Colleague goes for a smoke break? I go with them, just don’t smoke.
When I smoked, we had people that would just come and hang out for the break and the conversation. Go for it, it’s fine. Just don’t complain about smoking or you won’t be welcome, predictably enough.
One of my colleagues will even occasionally ask me “Heading for a smoke, wanna come along?” I just love chatting with him, I’ll try to stand upwind so I don’t catch as much second-hand smoke, he gets some company too, everyone’s happy.
This is what I used to do, the smoking area outside was a nice little shaded area, i just generally stood upwind of the smokers or slightly askew to avoid the 2nd hand smoke. No one gave me shit, I was just asked occasionally if i smoked.
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Also, nicotine serves as a pretty fair appetite suppressant and stimulant, thus why some of us fell into the habit in early college. Easier to justify the cost of a meal a day and a smoke than it is for the supplies to make three squares a day, at least in a food desert.
My grandfather picked up smoking in WWII because non-smoke4s didn’t get any breaks from digging trenches.
It took over 50 years, but WWII still managed to kill him.
Still a big reason a lot of joes start smoking. If you don’t have nicotine and alcohol issues going in, the Army is happy to issue you some.
The Air Force may have split from the army in 47, but some traditions carried over.
Wouldn’t be at all surprised if most of those AAF guys had a flask in the bomber jacket. Gets cold at altitude you know.
I had a job where breaks were working breaks unless you were a smoker. That’s when I went from only smoking socially to being a regular smoker.
I’ve worked at a cleaning job where the smokers were allowed to go outside whenever. Some even went on a smoke break several times per hour. The nonsmokers like me on the other hand were reprimanded if we sat down and drank something outside of the scheduled break. I complained, but the boss was a smoker and just told me they need their smoke break but I don’t need coffee… One coworker whom I talked to about that even said they started smoking because of this and because the non-smokers were expected to work more and cover for the smokers on their cigarette breaks.
As someone who has done a lot of drugs, nicotine having “no high” is just bs. Yeah it’s mild, but take a few drags very quickly and find out.
Smoked 2 cigs way back when.
Only coughed with no benefits.
Was it Clinton that didn’t inhale?
Charlie Wilson.
Texas Democrat known for partying hard, and was investigated (by Rudy Giuliani) for a party he attended in Vegas.
“The girls had cocaine, and the music was loud. It was total happiness. And both of them had long, red fingernails with an endless supply of beautiful white powder…The Feds spent a million bucks trying to figure out whether, when those fingernails passed under my nose, did I exhale or inhale, and I ain’t telling”
As like for many drugs, this search starts seeking pleasure and ends up, avoiding withdrawal with no high
Can confirm. Ruinied my life. Ironically it was alcohol that destroyed me.
sending love man
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I don’t think nicotine is a bad drug, necessarily.
But smoking is a terrible way to take it. Lip pouches also have their detractions, with the wounds they create.
Perhaps the teas, or other drinks, or sprays are better. Or maybe salves, if nicotine patches do anything then a salve should work too, I’m guessing. I know there’s bigger overdose risk, though. So they all will require the same personal responsibility approach as strong alcohol.
Ultimately I think legal access to strong nicotine products without the cancer issues of smoking is inevitable. But maybe only if we get to somewhere in the early 2100’s, because I don’t think it’s happening soon.
Ah yes my daily nicotine coffee
Likely not just daily. It has a short effective time.
Nicotine is poisonous when swallowed. A tea is a horrible idea.
Are you sure? I can’t find anything specific to swallowing beyond dosage.
My vape liquid has that skull warning symbol, says poisonous when swallowed and to see a doctor if that happens.
Might have to do with being a concentrated nicotine liquid for producing several doses, mate.
Tried in high school. I wanted to be able to smoke even if i didnt have or couldnt smoke weed. Thankfully a couple days in cigarettes made me vomit and I stopped without looking back. Wish I had been able to do that the first time alcohol made me vomit.
Second line points out addiction, then goes on to ask why? That’s a special kind of stupidity on its own.
It certainly does have an effect, albeit much less than hard drugs. I’ve smoked twice. The second time I decided to try a cigarette with a beer to see why people liked it so much. I enjoyed it so much that I decided to never try smoking again.
Cigarettes and coffee, man. The diner I used to go to (20+ years ago) had a single “non-smoking” table in the middle of the restaurant, the tar turned the walls yellowish (it was a 24 hour diner and closed once a year for a few days to deep clean the place), and there was always a haze. I didn’t smoke personally, but I spent a lot of time there.
When the smoking ban hit, it hit that place hard. A few weeks after it went into effect, I went there and thought they had changed the coffee they used because it wasn’t nearly as good. I asked the waitress, and she said it was the same, you just didn’t have all the cigarette smoke to go with it anymore. Turns out they used the exact same coffee as every other diner in town, they just had a constant nicotine-laced aromatics to go with it.
I believe the head rush effect is mostly when you first start and after that it diminishes and then you’re just dealing with the withdrawal.
It’s like a lot of other drugs. You never get that initial high back, but you keep chasing it.
Sounds pretty much like the computer games I played as a kid and how I remember them lol
This is correct. Though if you go a day or two without smoking you get the head rush back again for only that first smoke which is the insidious part about it
Basically why I am extremely hesitant to try most drugs. Either I don’t like it, or I DO like and and want to keep trying it… either way the odds of it being a good thing for me long term are pretty sketchy.
Agreed. Just not worth it.
I’m fortunate in that I’ve tried several things and never really got hooked, but if there was one that could eventually hook me it would be nicotine or opioids.
Chemically addictive drugs aren’t worth it. Ones that aren’t physically addictive can just be pleasant and then you don’t feel any particular compulsion to do them beyond the desire to do pleasant things.
Not saying to go out and do some drugs or anything, just sharing that plenty of people have done things like hallucinogens, found it to be a fun and worthwhile experience and then never felt the need to do it again.
So this is funny. I was raised with smokers. Didn’t smoke myself. Why? Because I got nothing but cough. Second hand smoke got me used to nicotine and it didn’t work xD
But! After smokers died off, and I lived alone for some time, I got used to no smoke and it backed off. Friend tried again to get me to smoke. So I inhaled like I did earlier and huh. I got hit, quickly.
So I swore to never smoke anyway. I already knew the high won’t last long before organism gets used to it, but I am gonna have cravings by then, so meh. And seen two close people ruined by it too.
Smoking a cigarette feels like you’ve been standing your entire life and you just sat down. Then it feels like nothing and the world hurts when you don’t have it
I haven’t smoked in 15 years, and I could start again tomorrow. I love smoking and still miss it.
Well done, I know that feeling even though I’m only on my 2nd year without cigarettes after smoking for 30 years.
Thats a good streak, dude. Keep going :)
Yah, remembering the feeling of being knifed in the chest still keeps me from going back.
Have you tried smoking cigarettes instead of knives?
I quit smoking cold turkey almost 10 years ago. I promised myself I can start smoking again when The Fall happens.
That’s good! The nitrites in cold turkey are probably super bad for your lungs.
I’ll see myself out…
4 years free myself!
This is actually a very good description of how a shot of heroin feels, when you have a habit. It’s just much moreso than cigarettes.
Awww man I was really looking forward to heroin in my later years.
Five, hundred, cigarettes.
I think Nicotine has a stimulant effect, so there is that. Other than that, yea, the marketing devils get to them.
There also is a big social aspect of taking smoke breaks together.
You can simply take the break and socialize without the smoking part.
In theory, but that’s not really how humans work.
The marketing to get the first puff, then the nicotine to keep you hooked.
It’s cool
vaping is the new cool thing. I wasn’t super socially present through high school, but I know that lots of the kids there do vape in the bathrooms and stuff and it’s seen as cool somehow
