I just watched Casablanca for the first time a couple of days ago, and as someone that hates smoking, I just don’t get how it came to be everywhere back in the day. Ingrid Bergman is probably the only non-smoker in the entire movie! Both her (breast, 69) and Humphrey Bogart (esophageal, 57) died of cancer.
Growing up with two smoking parents that’d both gladly hotbox their kids, my brother and I, when we drove anywhere was just awful. I really don’t get how you can do that to other people without feeling ashamed.That first set of parenthesese were really confusing until I read the rest of the sentence.
“(breast, 69)” out of context does seem a bit 👀
For a second I thought you were making a disparaging remark about her being a woman!
For a split second I thought this was going to be a comment about a link between smoking and breast sizes (in some weird units).
Well, back in the day cigarette companies paid to be in the movies. This timeline puts it back to the very first “talkies” cigarette companies were already shouldering their way in and making sure that they were associated with sex and cool. Everyone was smoking on screen because films were big tobacco ads.
Smoking a cigarette feels like you’ve been standing your entire life and you just sat down. Then it feels like nothing and the world hurts when you don’t have it
This is actually a very good description of how a shot of heroin feels, when you have a habit. It’s just much moreso than cigarettes.
Awww man I was really looking forward to heroin in my later years.
Five, hundred, cigarettes.
I haven’t smoked in 15 years, and I could start again tomorrow. I love smoking and still miss it.
Thats a good streak, dude. Keep going :)
Yah, remembering the feeling of being knifed in the chest still keeps me from going back.
Have you tried smoking cigarettes instead of knives?
Well done, I know that feeling even though I’m only on my 2nd year without cigarettes after smoking for 30 years.
4 years free myself!
I quit smoking cold turkey almost 10 years ago. I promised myself I can start smoking again when The Fall happens.
That’s good! The nitrites in cold turkey are probably super bad for your lungs.
I’ll see myself out…
My question exactly… I genuinely don’t get it
Nicotine is a stimulant.
A drunk cigarette is quite nice ngl, usually makes the hangover worse though
Like many things, it’s an irrational decision to start at some point, and then addiction keeps you doing it. I have tried out a few drugs in my teenage/young adult years, including some “hard” ones, which ended up genuinely being one-off curiosity things for me. But the one that I simply wasn’t able to kick until last year was nicotine. It really is scarily addictive for something so widespread and legal. (Alcohol was also hard, but easier for me).
That, and the part about “no high” is just not really true, even after you develop a dependency/addiction (with rapidly diminishing returns, of course). But especially when first starting to vape/smoke, there are very much effects beyond placebo. It hooks into a lot of your neurochemistry, and like most things that do, you feel that. To the point that, e.g., many people that consume weed with tobacco, will think the initial wooziness they feel is already due to the weed, when really, it is a tobacco hit. The weed effects generally come afterwards.
Of course, the effect is not at all as intense as alcohol or other drugs, but there are effects. There are also, to my knowledge, some indications, that a lot of people with ADHD use it to self-medicate, since it seems to affect them differently, like other drugs do, too.
If you get drunk and throw a dip in your head goes spinning like crazy lol
Of course, the effect is not at all as intense as alcohol or other drugs, but there are effects. There are also, to my knowledge, some indications, that a lot of people with ADHD use it to self-medicate, since it seems to affect them differently, like other drugs do, too.
Sounds plausible; nicotine is a stimulant by means of triggering the release of adrenaline, dopamine, and serotonin. That is pretty much what an ADHD brain lacks.
I’ve done coke, meth, acid, ecstasy, heavy amounts of opiates and I had been a full on alcoholic for years and I stopped all of those, quite easily as well. Cigarettes are another story tho.
One time I tried quitting cigarettes cold turkey and had a mild heart attack.
I’ve gotten close before but I just end up back here smoking.
Nicotine is by far the most addictive drug I’ve ever taken.
Definitely. I’m sure that the experience is also different for different people, but
overallfor me, it was really hard to get rid of. I was basically non-functioning for about 2 weeks, when I quit cold turkey last year, and I still get cravings every now and then, and I still don’t feel “the same”, just, in an overall psychological/bodily way that is hard to convey. Also, the (unwanted) weight gain after I quit was very much an unfortunate reality.That is probably not the experience everyone has, different physiologies and psychological factors and all that, but I am certainly not the only person I anecdotally heard from, that had an intense struggle with the stuff. And it’s also not the first time I heard from other people having gone through other addictions mentioning, that nicotine is the one they struggled with the most, or are still struggling with.
Bottom line: Don’t start with nicotine, it really is not worth it. And if you are already caught up in it, and are one of the people that just can’t quit - don’t feel like you are weak or anything like that. Nicotine really is that addictive.
Nicotine does have a high, that’s why. It’s subtle and a bit similar to caffeine
the reason is in the post. it’s highly addictive. quitting is basically impossible without professional assistance
You’ve obviously never been a smoker 🚬 sweet sweet nicotine, i miss u so!
Fuck I miss cigarettes!
I feel this so hard lol. I have never returned to smoking but vaping was such a ‘cleaner’ way to get a nic high. I tell myself that nicotine has power over me and if someone put a vape in front of me I’d hit it in a heartbeat
Still messes up your lungs though
I’d argue it’s worse. I’ve met people that never stop vaping. I’ve even know some sleep vapers.
I’d say if you used it as a 1 to 1 replacement for smoking it’s probably better, but if you hit it 10 times as often as you’d smoke a cigarette you’re going to be worse off
More quickly too, based on what I’ve read.
I think Nicotine has a stimulant effect, so there is that. Other than that, yea, the marketing devils get to them.
The marketing to get the first puff, then the nicotine to keep you hooked.
There also is a big social aspect of taking smoke breaks together.
You can simply take the break and socialize without the smoking part.
In theory, but that’s not really how humans work.
vaping is the new cool thing. I wasn’t super socially present through high school, but I know that lots of the kids there do vape in the bathrooms and stuff and it’s seen as cool somehow
Tobacco is generally a pretty lame drug, but some forms of it at least smell somewhat good (e.g. waterpipes (though I think a lot of the ‘smells good’ is additives), or the old-fashioned smoking pipes).
I can speak as someone who previously smoked for a decade+ and then quit. I started because some friends who smoked offered me one and I was dumb enough to say yes. Horrible. But there was a very nice immediate head rush/high. And then that led to friends continuing to offer cigarettes and me continuing to be dumb. And then addiction takes hold and it goes from there.
I probably didn’t actually BUY my own smokes until I’d already smoked more than a carton off of other people offering.
And it is a HARD drug to quit. Still to this day when I smell someone smoking a cig I immediately get the “awww fuck I could really use one of those right now” urges
I smoked occasionally while drinking at bars/parties. Bought a few packs to smoke/share. Never smoked outside of those times and at worst it was maybe every other week.
I guess I had a decent addiction tolerance.
Elementary school always warned us that people would offer us free drugs. This whole time, people have joked that no one is going around giving away free cocaine and heroin. Turns out, it was cigarettes they were trying to warn us about
This but unironically lol
Yeah from what I’ve heard that feeling never goes away. I remember someone who quit smoking telling me how good secondhand smoke smells.
As a non-smoker, I get that sensation when I smell a cigar or cigarillo - a sweet scent of tobacco.
But cigarettes? What’s even to smell? It just smells like an ash toilet
After you smoke cigarettes for a while the smell becomes good to you
It just smells like an ash toilet
IMO that’s part of why so many people (me included) fall for this shit: “there’s no way I’ll become addicted to this horrendous shit, no harm in bumming another one to look cool”.
Yeah I used to think cig smoke smelt like disgusting ass before I smoked. After I smoked it still smells like ass but it smells like GOOD ass
It’s like when you’re hungover after a rough night and you’re not really TOO hungry but you know you should eat something or you’re going to suffer even more later today so you go rummaging around in your freezer and eeeeh there’s not really much there, but then behind the bag of frozen vegetables there’s one lone frozen burrito and oh good fucking LORD that burrito right in this moment is the best 5/5 top quality food you’ve ever eaten in your entire life. Cigarettes will smell like that burrito forevermore
But if a million flies love to suck on shit, it has to be good, right?
Me ( an addicted smoker ) : THIS!
Second line points out addiction, then goes on to ask why? That’s a special kind of stupidity on its own.
I picked up a vape off the street a few days ago to disassemble and see how they work. I definitely get that nicotine craving they are talking about. The slightest whiff of that things odor is enough to make you curious to more. Ive had to put it in a jar to avoid the sweet smell
Addiction is a helluva drug!
I got hooked at first because as teenagers when we smoked weed we would smoke it cut with nicotine.
I don’t even smoke cigs anymore, but I still use rolling tobacco to cut my weed for some weird reason.
Spiffs are just so much smoother, and nice tobacco has a good taste to it. We would always spliff our blunts in college.
That’s what it is. Even top shelf weed makes me cough without blending some tobacco in it. Healthy? No, and I hate it for that.
It’s not like smoking pot is any better for your lungs. I’m no stranger to smoking tobacco in various forms though, and mainly take my THC via hime made edibles, although i still smoke plenty of it as well
OP discovers addiction. Doesn’t realise he probably has one himself.
OOP?
As someone who has done a lot of drugs, nicotine having “no high” is just bs. Yeah it’s mild, but take a few drags very quickly and find out.
Smoked 2 cigs way back when.
Only coughed with no benefits.
Was it Clinton that didn’t inhale?
Charlie Wilson.
Texas Democrat known for partying hard, and was investigated (by Rudy Giuliani) for a party he attended in Vegas.
“The girls had cocaine, and the music was loud. It was total happiness. And both of them had long, red fingernails with an endless supply of beautiful white powder…The Feds spent a million bucks trying to figure out whether, when those fingernails passed under my nose, did I exhale or inhale, and I ain’t telling”
I don’t think nicotine is a bad drug, necessarily.
But smoking is a terrible way to take it. Lip pouches also have their detractions, with the wounds they create.
Perhaps the teas, or other drinks, or sprays are better. Or maybe salves, if nicotine patches do anything then a salve should work too, I’m guessing. I know there’s bigger overdose risk, though. So they all will require the same personal responsibility approach as strong alcohol.
Ultimately I think legal access to strong nicotine products without the cancer issues of smoking is inevitable. But maybe only if we get to somewhere in the early 2100’s, because I don’t think it’s happening soon.
Nicotine is poisonous when swallowed. A tea is a horrible idea.
Are you sure? I can’t find anything specific to swallowing beyond dosage.
My vape liquid has that skull warning symbol, says poisonous when swallowed and to see a doctor if that happens.
Might have to do with being a concentrated nicotine liquid for producing several doses, mate.
Ah yes my daily nicotine coffee
Likely not just daily. It has a short effective time.
As like for many drugs, this search starts seeking pleasure and ends up, avoiding withdrawal with no high
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