We can do this with wet wipes, but carbon is a bridge too far?
Easily the weirdest demonstration of the. ‘polluter pays’ principle
I doubt that cars and car infrastructure would be allowed today if we weren’t already knee-deep in the shit they cause.
It’s probably the worst invention ever.
bleach wouldn’t be allowed today either
Have we though? This headline is “Spain aims to”.
Are you hitting a pay wall? I was able to open the actual article.
Draft legislation that only applies in Europe/EU
A lot of EU regulations will often cause an industry to standardize on their global products following the more strict standard.
That’s only true if it’s more profitable. Companies sell plenty of shit to Americans that is banned in other markets. We’re basically a dumping ground for a lot of cheap “has been linked to cancer” products.
Nobody has ever explained externalities to them clearly. Instead they just yell at them and call them fascists. So it’s understandable why many of them don’t get that they’re paying for the damage the company places in public spheres.
I’d imagine fossil fuel has a bigger lobby than wet wipe companies lmao
Didn’t let Big Wet Wipe hear this! They will be furious! (But very fresh)
The hospital I work at had installed some kind of wipe catcher in most of the publicly accessable toilets. All you can see is a metal ring at the opening at the bottom of the toilet with a sign warning not to put your hand in there or you WILL get shredded. Apparently it has sharp bits that will snag wipes if you attempt to flush them.
We need to install waffle grates in all toilets and just have a foot press that lets you push your poop in
that doesnt sound pleasant, and poop might get caked up in the grate.
I guess they’ll post a policeman in every toilet
Uhhh, you know those things are from the store, right?
At last. I have been waiting for this for years. I can finally wipe again
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Fuck these fucking things! Why do people tend to choose the most insane option when they are given a choice!?
Ghetto-Takeaway-Bidet
Punch a tiny hole in the neck of an empty 0,33ml PET plastic bottle. You can use a drill, a needle or a corkscrew. Fill it with water and squeeze it to spray your ass, vulva, whatever clean.if manufacturers were fined for their garbage, there would be much less garbage.
Not sure about that. They would probably start paying for cleaning offsets or something and claim that it’s the same as actually cleaning up their trash, so they don’t need to do anything.
at least they have a backup plan of getting those companies to pay for the cleanup. That might be just slightly less impossible to make happen than people stop flushing them.
Toilet police serve and protect!
I read the title and had to go to the article because my brain read pipes instead of wipes. I was trying to figure out how/why they were trying to transition to having dry pipes for water lines.
Yep. Make it the manufacturers’ problem. They only care when it hits their wallet. Even if they pass on the costs, it’ll make the wipes that actually dissolve properly cheaper and these are exempt.
How do you make a wet wipe dissolve when its wet without dissolving when its wet
They are different kind of wet, obviously
I understand it’s “wet” from some alcohol/aldehydes and not from water.
Who is out there wiping their ass with %100 ethanol?
Right? I use Goo B Gone
Got that mud butt?
Gets it fucking clean, I’ll tell you that.
You light the ethanol and it burns off all the shit.
I prefer acetone and a map-gas torch.
Chip clean room workers stealing stuff from the job rather than buy tp?
Would at least leave it super clean lmao
Because ethanol forms an azeotrope with water, 100% ethanol is also considerably more expensive than ~95%
They’re definitely not gonna use 100% ethanol haha
someone with 6inch thick skin.
I’m looking at a package of wet wipes right now and it says “99% water” on them
Maybe my understanding is wrong, and I don’t use wet wipes that often, but the ones I have I bought like a year ago 60% ethanol v/v.
I see, maybe there are different types then. Mine are for an actual baby.
Ok, so I checked a superstore near me, and my updated understanding is
- anything disinfecting is alcohol based be it for skin or for for objects,
- things designed for cleaning skin or to be “refreshing/fragrant” are mostly water based.
- However there are skin cleaning products that are marketed more towards deep clean or dirt/oil/grease etc are almost always alcohol based.
- cleaning objects intended wet wipes also mostly alcohol based. But if marketed as “gentle” could be water based.
So baby wipes being meant to clean skin and be “gentle”, it makes sense that they are water based.
No clue, but I have those here.
Tried it too. Left it in water and poof, disssolves after a while. (several minutes)
Must be different kind of water they come in would be my guess
we need to return to wiping our asses with leaves
cool would be develop a plant whose only purpose is be there, in your bathroom, growing smooth ass leaves to wipe your ass.
Actually, there are! (Though it’s classified as invasive in many places, so they really have to be carefully kept.)
In the western US and Canada, thimbleberry leaves can also be used.
They are both great in theory, but in practice, you defoliate the plants too quickly, and you are still putting extra material down pipes. The best, least damaging solution are bidets, since they just use water, and don’t require trees or plants to be cut down and pulped.
They should mandate bidets in all residential bathrooms like Italy imo
I went to Japan last month. It is a bidet heaven. My ass was so clean!
It actually use to be mandatory in Spain since the dictatorship and until 20 years ago or so.
Nailed it. Real Decreto 314/2006
Luckily I live in a house from when Spain was an Absolute Monarchy with bidet in every bathroom.
When has Spain been a absolute monarchy recently, I think Spain became a Parliamentary Monarchy with the Cortes de Cadiz in 1836
That was in 1812, after than we went back to Monarchy with the infamous Fernando VII, then Isabel II, then Alfonso XII, Alfonso XIII then dictatorship then democracy (1978).
My house is from the late XIX century.
Fuck wet wipes
I keep a pack of wet wipes with me every time I travel. I never use them in the toilet, though. Just for cleaning my hands when eating street food.
Just don’t flush them after
What’s up with Europes fragile plumbing? Does the US have this problem but it’s never reported or what?
Oh, we definitely do. People commit huge crimes like flushing huge amounts of clothing down the line, which totally fucks up the pumps that move sewage up hills and over into bigger infrastructure. Many places used to have incinerators in the lines, but some people freak out that it’s bad for the environment (as if putting biosolid shit into landfills isn’t worse, which generates tons of methane). At least the incinerators used to burn up foreign objects and could run off the grease in shit and greywater alone.
Spent $4000 on a plumbing repair because the previous owner flushed a bunch of wipes. The plumbers removed about 15 pounds of shitty wipes and then replaced the pipe.
Not sure about the majority of Europe but as far as I’m aware you can still find lead or ceramic pipes in parts of the UK. Some plumbing is still Victorian as well I think, thanks to a lack of investment from the water companies.
Wipes clog up American plumbing also. They make giant fatbergs that workers have to go in and tear apart to unblock the sewers.
Mostly a Spain thing. They don’t even want you flushing toilet paper in Tenerife.
Unfortunately nobody told me that until the last day of the holiday…
