Nice move Spain. Seriously. Anyone still cut the 6 pack plastic carrier to save turtles ? Anyone still confused why they still allow manufacturer to still use that plastic contraption?
That is because they don’t care.
In Spain cardboard is used
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Yes, but it’s actually not that great for the enviornment since in Spain normally the plastic foil and aluminium layer is not separated for recycling. The only part that gets recycled is the external cardboard layer.
Here the whole 6pack is either wrapped in a thin plastic foil or it’s cardboard.
I haven’t seen can six packs in the wild in Germany for ages, the few cans that are for sale come in trays of 24. Results do show pictures of “wrap everything in plastic” (Coca-Cola) as well as cardboard solutions like the Spanish one, the first hit that’s a commercial supply looks just like carton six-pack packaging for bottles.
Thing is cans are kind of iffy in Germany because of the 25ct deposit, it’s not so much the deposit that’s the issue (the same goes for very popular PET bottles) but that cans crinkle and once they do they might be right-out impossible to scan and get your money back. Also PET is fine for about everything but beer, and for beer there’s glass bottles. If you ever see beer in PET in Germany give it a wide berth it tastes as good as its price-point indicates. You’re better off with wine or sangria in a tetra pack.
it’s absolutely wild that the US still allows this… it’s 1 of the first things my friends all comment on when travelling there (australia)
The hospital I work at had installed some kind of wipe catcher in most of the publicly accessable toilets. All you can see is a metal ring at the opening at the bottom of the toilet with a sign warning not to put your hand in there or you WILL get shredded. Apparently it has sharp bits that will snag wipes if you attempt to flush them.
We need to install waffle grates in all toilets and just have a foot press that lets you push your poop in
that doesnt sound pleasant, and poop might get caked up in the grate.
we need to return to wiping our asses with leaves
cool would be develop a plant whose only purpose is be there, in your bathroom, growing smooth ass leaves to wipe your ass.
Actually, there are! (Though it’s classified as invasive in many places, so they really have to be carefully kept.)
In the western US and Canada, thimbleberry leaves can also be used.
They are both great in theory, but in practice, you defoliate the plants too quickly, and you are still putting extra material down pipes. The best, least damaging solution are bidets, since they just use water, and don’t require trees or plants to be cut down and pulped.
at least they have a backup plan of getting those companies to pay for the cleanup. That might be just slightly less impossible to make happen than people stop flushing them.
It blows my mind that I still see ads for “flushable” wipes
Oh. Shoot. I’ve bought those in the past. So they’re lying about being flushable, I suppose.
They’re fine to use, just put them in the trash when you’re done.
Insane. Just get a bidet. You can get one that just screws on under your toilet seat.
How is that insane? I keep a tiny trash can with a step open lid next to the toilet specifically for that. The lid and frequently changing the bags prevent it from stinking, plus it uses way less water.
Personally I feel like they have all the benefits of bidets and TP, with none of the drawbacks.
the drawbacks are that they’re made from cotton and plastics, which are all absolutely horrendous for the environment… cotton is among the worst offenders for water use, and polyester etc is bad in clothes let alone chucking an entire wet wipe multiple times per day
They have their own singular drawback with being a stain on the environment.
Seriously, just get a bidet
I live in an RV, which has a special toilet designed to use very little water.
I don’t think it would work even if I could afford to retrofit my bathroom, as water pressure is often an issue when traveling.
I use a travel bidet. Squeeze bottle lol
I’ll hold my dog over the bidet.
I like the hand held ones. Better build quality for the price
And FYI for any woman out there, these are better for health, as they don’t blast bacteria from back to front. There was a study about it that I read several years ago, which I kept in mind when choosing a bidet. I went for a handheld one, too, and it’s great.
I use them for after exercise, so it’s just sweat and dirt. I have been meaning to get a bidet, though.
Bidet showers are the best after a long workout, have your gym install one in the gym restroom for everyone to use
My understanding is that none of them are flushable
Edit: Yes, you are able to flush them. I didn’t think I needed to clarify that I meant whether flushing them will destroy your plumbing or not
My understanding is they are flushable (technically), it’s just not good to flush them because they don’t disintegrate or break down in water like toilet paper does. So it leads to clogs in pipes or sewer filtering equipment.
Saw it on history channel a many moons ago, the sewage treatment plants have difficulties with them.
By that logic anything small enough to fit in the pipe is flushable. Sounds like the word “flushable” on packaging needs to be regulated.
It is regulated. Flushable means it doesn’t clog household pipes. It doesn’t say anything about the sewers and that’s where the problem is.
It’ll clog some household pipes regardless.
I remember reading a post from someone who worked for a flushable wipe company. They were getting complaints from the waste treatment plant but the they kept telling them that they are safe to flush and that the waste treatment plant were having issue were non flushable wet wipe baby wipe types. It got to the point where the guy from the wipe company had to go down there and get a lab analysis on them. All of the wipes that were blocking up the plant were wet ones and non flushable baby wipes. The conclusion was people are idiots and don’t read the labels.
They are flushable, it just becomes a problem later on
Everything is flushable if you’re brave enough and your toilet is big enough. I flush whole garbage bags and small appliances down my powerflush-9,000,000. The local water authority hates me, they have to keep a crew on standby at the end of my driveway to haul my garbage away after unclogging the sewers, but I write “flushable” on each one to taunt them so they know there’s nothing they can do to stop me.
In all seriousness, we need to stop this anti-social behavior. It’s a problem, the government needs to step in to protect consumers and municipalities and hold manufacturers accountable.
But muh freedumbs!
I mean, sure… Poop is also technically edible but you don’t see me eating shit
Ah, right, I get it! It becomes a hidden problem that I can’t see, just like I technically can’t see you eating shit, because you hide while doing so.
*Scurries into the corner and cowers over bowl of hot poop*
Cold poop is just gross
Wow you made the same point I did!
I just think it was unnecessary, as I assumed people understood that you can technically flush these wipes.
I wonder because the one I use is made 100% of plant fibers and a couple natural extracts like aloe vera. Is that flushable?
No.
If it’s not human waste or regular toilet paper, it’s not flushable.
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Sometimes human waste isn’t flushable. Btw where do you keep your poop knife?
Wooden roof beams are also 100% plant fibers, as are wool sweaters and the sewer system definitely can not handle neither of those.
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the sewer system definitely can not handle
neithereither of those.it’s not a double negative. it’s repetition for emphasis.
Wait. You’re saying that sheep aren’t plants?
100% plant fibers
wool sweaters
Vegan wool.
Doubtful. I think it’s that they dont break down quickly enough and cause clogs.
Is it sold already wet within their packaging?
If it were water soluble, it would have already dissolved before you opened the packaging.
No, they’re definitely flushable. Just like my new product, flushable golf balls! Put them in your toilet, hit the plunger, and watch them disappear down the drain. Totally flushable!
Conover, are you flushing golf balls again?!
I don’t ever remember seeing them here in Sweden. I can’t even remember seeing an ad for wipes at all. The only common “wipes” here are for babies, and even that isn’t something everyone uses.
Flushable just means it will fit in the pipe. It doesn’t mean it should be there.
Cottonelle claims that theirs break down and for a while they would fall apart when using them, so it could be true. Anything that just says flushable, though, is meaningless.
I saw one that claimed “plumber approved” and it made me so mad we don’t have meaningful laws against deceptive advertising.
I’d like really sewer-safe wet wipes. If tried several bidets and did not like them, definitely worse than wipes IMO.
Edible wipes are the future! Invest now!
Like “recyclable” plastic.
Well it is recyclable, it’s just so expensive most don’t bother.
One of the biggest bits of propaganda of all time.
Wanna see something really gross…what is a fatberg
What’s up with Europes fragile plumbing? Does the US have this problem but it’s never reported or what?
Mostly a Spain thing. They don’t even want you flushing toilet paper in Tenerife.
Unfortunately nobody told me that until the last day of the holiday…
Spent $4000 on a plumbing repair because the previous owner flushed a bunch of wipes. The plumbers removed about 15 pounds of shitty wipes and then replaced the pipe.
Not sure about the majority of Europe but as far as I’m aware you can still find lead or ceramic pipes in parts of the UK. Some plumbing is still Victorian as well I think, thanks to a lack of investment from the water companies.
Oh, we definitely do. People commit huge crimes like flushing huge amounts of clothing down the line, which totally fucks up the pumps that move sewage up hills and over into bigger infrastructure. Many places used to have incinerators in the lines, but some people freak out that it’s bad for the environment (as if putting biosolid shit into landfills isn’t worse, which generates tons of methane). At least the incinerators used to burn up foreign objects and could run off the grease in shit and greywater alone.
Wipes clog up American plumbing also. They make giant fatbergs that workers have to go in and tear apart to unblock the sewers.
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I guess they’ll post a policeman in every toilet
Uhhh, you know those things are from the store, right?
We can do this with wet wipes, but carbon is a bridge too far?
Easily the weirdest demonstration of the. ‘polluter pays’ principle
Nobody has ever explained externalities to them clearly. Instead they just yell at them and call them fascists. So it’s understandable why many of them don’t get that they’re paying for the damage the company places in public spheres.
I doubt that cars and car infrastructure would be allowed today if we weren’t already knee-deep in the shit they cause.
It’s probably the worst invention ever.
bleach wouldn’t be allowed today either
I’d imagine fossil fuel has a bigger lobby than wet wipe companies lmao
Didn’t let Big Wet Wipe hear this! They will be furious! (But very fresh)
Have we though? This headline is “Spain aims to”.
Are you hitting a pay wall? I was able to open the actual article.
Draft legislation that only applies in Europe/EU
A lot of EU regulations will often cause an industry to standardize on their global products following the more strict standard.
That’s only true if it’s more profitable. Companies sell plenty of shit to Americans that is banned in other markets. We’re basically a dumping ground for a lot of cheap “has been linked to cancer” products.
They can make what looks like plastic carrier bags that dissolve in water now so the manufacturers could I suspect make dissolvable wipes but will probably only do it when forced by law.
I’m aware there are maybe one or two brands that already do this (or claim to at least) but they all need to be doing it.
We have flushable dog poo bags and they’re awesome. We’ve tested them and they dissolve after less than an hour in the toilet (maybe much sooner, but I got distracted and didn’t time it).
Dog poop for the fire gods
The thing is that those aren’t wet to begin with, like a wet wipe.
They already exist though look into a brand like cottonelle.
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Fuck these fucking things! Why do people tend to choose the most insane option when they are given a choice!?
Ghetto-Takeaway-Bidet
Punch a tiny hole in the neck of an empty 0,33ml PET plastic bottle. You can use a drill, a needle or a corkscrew. Fill it with water and squeeze it to spray your ass, vulva, whatever clean.At last. I have been waiting for this for years. I can finally wipe again
Spain is on a roll!
Toilet police serve and protect!
I read the title and had to go to the article because my brain read pipes instead of wipes. I was trying to figure out how/why they were trying to transition to having dry pipes for water lines.
