• @[email protected]
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        122 days ago

        Yes, but it’s actually not that great for the enviornment since in Spain normally the plastic foil and aluminium layer is not separated for recycling. The only part that gets recycled is the external cardboard layer.

      • WIZARD POPE💫
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        Here the whole 6pack is either wrapped in a thin plastic foil or it’s cardboard.

      • @[email protected]
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        121 days ago

        I haven’t seen can six packs in the wild in Germany for ages, the few cans that are for sale come in trays of 24. Results do show pictures of “wrap everything in plastic” (Coca-Cola) as well as cardboard solutions like the Spanish one, the first hit that’s a commercial supply looks just like carton six-pack packaging for bottles.

        Thing is cans are kind of iffy in Germany because of the 25ct deposit, it’s not so much the deposit that’s the issue (the same goes for very popular PET bottles) but that cans crinkle and once they do they might be right-out impossible to scan and get your money back. Also PET is fine for about everything but beer, and for beer there’s glass bottles. If you ever see beer in PET in Germany give it a wide berth it tastes as good as its price-point indicates. You’re better off with wine or sangria in a tetra pack.

    • Pup Biru
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      222 days ago

      it’s absolutely wild that the US still allows this… it’s 1 of the first things my friends all comment on when travelling there (australia)

  • @[email protected]
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    The hospital I work at had installed some kind of wipe catcher in most of the publicly accessable toilets. All you can see is a metal ring at the opening at the bottom of the toilet with a sign warning not to put your hand in there or you WILL get shredded. Apparently it has sharp bits that will snag wipes if you attempt to flush them.

    • oni ᓚᘏᗢ
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      cool would be develop a plant whose only purpose is be there, in your bathroom, growing smooth ass leaves to wipe your ass.

  • @[email protected]
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    at least they have a backup plan of getting those companies to pay for the cleanup. That might be just slightly less impossible to make happen than people stop flushing them.

    • @[email protected]
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      Oh. Shoot. I’ve bought those in the past. So they’re lying about being flushable, I suppose.

          • @[email protected]
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            122 days ago

            How is that insane? I keep a tiny trash can with a step open lid next to the toilet specifically for that. The lid and frequently changing the bags prevent it from stinking, plus it uses way less water.

            Personally I feel like they have all the benefits of bidets and TP, with none of the drawbacks.

            • Pup Biru
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              222 days ago

              the drawbacks are that they’re made from cotton and plastics, which are all absolutely horrendous for the environment… cotton is among the worst offenders for water use, and polyester etc is bad in clothes let alone chucking an entire wet wipe multiple times per day

            • @[email protected]
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              221 days ago

              They have their own singular drawback with being a stain on the environment.

              Seriously, just get a bidet

              • @[email protected]
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                121 days ago

                I live in an RV, which has a special toilet designed to use very little water.

                I don’t think it would work even if I could afford to retrofit my bathroom, as water pressure is often an issue when traveling.

            • @[email protected]
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              323 days ago

              And FYI for any woman out there, these are better for health, as they don’t blast bacteria from back to front. There was a study about it that I read several years ago, which I kept in mind when choosing a bidet. I went for a handheld one, too, and it’s great.

          • @[email protected]
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            523 days ago

            I use them for after exercise, so it’s just sweat and dirt. I have been meaning to get a bidet, though.

            • @[email protected]
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              523 days ago

              Bidet showers are the best after a long workout, have your gym install one in the gym restroom for everyone to use

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        My understanding is that none of them are flushable

        Edit: Yes, you are able to flush them. I didn’t think I needed to clarify that I meant whether flushing them will destroy your plumbing or not

        • @[email protected]
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          My understanding is they are flushable (technically), it’s just not good to flush them because they don’t disintegrate or break down in water like toilet paper does. So it leads to clogs in pipes or sewer filtering equipment.

          • UltraMagnus0001
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            223 days ago

            Saw it on history channel a many moons ago, the sewage treatment plants have difficulties with them.

          • @[email protected]
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            1723 days ago

            By that logic anything small enough to fit in the pipe is flushable. Sounds like the word “flushable” on packaging needs to be regulated.

            • @[email protected]
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              423 days ago

              It is regulated. Flushable means it doesn’t clog household pipes. It doesn’t say anything about the sewers and that’s where the problem is.

            • @[email protected]
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              523 days ago

              I remember reading a post from someone who worked for a flushable wipe company. They were getting complaints from the waste treatment plant but the they kept telling them that they are safe to flush and that the waste treatment plant were having issue were non flushable wet wipe baby wipe types. It got to the point where the guy from the wipe company had to go down there and get a lab analysis on them. All of the wipes that were blocking up the plant were wet ones and non flushable baby wipes. The conclusion was people are idiots and don’t read the labels.

          • @[email protected]
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            1323 days ago

            Everything is flushable if you’re brave enough and your toilet is big enough. I flush whole garbage bags and small appliances down my powerflush-9,000,000. The local water authority hates me, they have to keep a crew on standby at the end of my driveway to haul my garbage away after unclogging the sewers, but I write “flushable” on each one to taunt them so they know there’s nothing they can do to stop me.

            In all seriousness, we need to stop this anti-social behavior. It’s a problem, the government needs to step in to protect consumers and municipalities and hold manufacturers accountable.

        • FundMECFS
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          I wonder because the one I use is made 100% of plant fibers and a couple natural extracts like aloe vera. Is that flushable?

      • @[email protected]
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        No, they’re definitely flushable. Just like my new product, flushable golf balls! Put them in your toilet, hit the plunger, and watch them disappear down the drain. Totally flushable!

    • M137
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      I don’t ever remember seeing them here in Sweden. I can’t even remember seeing an ad for wipes at all. The only common “wipes” here are for babies, and even that isn’t something everyone uses.

    • @[email protected]
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      Flushable just means it will fit in the pipe. It doesn’t mean it should be there.

      Cottonelle claims that theirs break down and for a while they would fall apart when using them, so it could be true. Anything that just says flushable, though, is meaningless.

      • @[email protected]
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        I saw one that claimed “plumber approved” and it made me so mad we don’t have meaningful laws against deceptive advertising.

        I’d like really sewer-safe wet wipes. If tried several bidets and did not like them, definitely worse than wipes IMO.

    • ddh
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      1423 days ago

      Like “recyclable” plastic.

  • @[email protected]
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    123 days ago

    What’s up with Europes fragile plumbing? Does the US have this problem but it’s never reported or what?

    • @[email protected]
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      Mostly a Spain thing. They don’t even want you flushing toilet paper in Tenerife.

      Unfortunately nobody told me that until the last day of the holiday…

    • @[email protected]
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      Spent $4000 on a plumbing repair because the previous owner flushed a bunch of wipes. The plumbers removed about 15 pounds of shitty wipes and then replaced the pipe.

    • @[email protected]
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      Not sure about the majority of Europe but as far as I’m aware you can still find lead or ceramic pipes in parts of the UK. Some plumbing is still Victorian as well I think, thanks to a lack of investment from the water companies.

    • @[email protected]
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      Oh, we definitely do. People commit huge crimes like flushing huge amounts of clothing down the line, which totally fucks up the pumps that move sewage up hills and over into bigger infrastructure. Many places used to have incinerators in the lines, but some people freak out that it’s bad for the environment (as if putting biosolid shit into landfills isn’t worse, which generates tons of methane). At least the incinerators used to burn up foreign objects and could run off the grease in shit and greywater alone.

    • @[email protected]
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      2323 days ago

      Wipes clog up American plumbing also. They make giant fatbergs that workers have to go in and tear apart to unblock the sewers.

  • Track_Shovel
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    We can do this with wet wipes, but carbon is a bridge too far?

    Easily the weirdest demonstration of the. ‘polluter pays’ principle

    • @[email protected]
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      Nobody has ever explained externalities to them clearly. Instead they just yell at them and call them fascists. So it’s understandable why many of them don’t get that they’re paying for the damage the company places in public spheres.

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      I doubt that cars and car infrastructure would be allowed today if we weren’t already knee-deep in the shit they cause.

      It’s probably the worst invention ever.

      • SkaveRat
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        Didn’t let Big Wet Wipe hear this! They will be furious! (But very fresh)

          • @[email protected]
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            A lot of EU regulations will often cause an industry to standardize on their global products following the more strict standard.

            • @[email protected]
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              That’s only true if it’s more profitable. Companies sell plenty of shit to Americans that is banned in other markets. We’re basically a dumping ground for a lot of cheap “has been linked to cancer” products.

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    They can make what looks like plastic carrier bags that dissolve in water now so the manufacturers could I suspect make dissolvable wipes but will probably only do it when forced by law.

    I’m aware there are maybe one or two brands that already do this (or claim to at least) but they all need to be doing it.

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    Fuck these fucking things! Why do people tend to choose the most insane option when they are given a choice!?

    Ghetto-Takeaway-Bidet
    Punch a tiny hole in the neck of an empty 0,33ml PET plastic bottle. You can use a drill, a needle or a corkscrew. Fill it with water and squeeze it to spray your ass, vulva, whatever clean.

  • @[email protected]
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    I read the title and had to go to the article because my brain read pipes instead of wipes. I was trying to figure out how/why they were trying to transition to having dry pipes for water lines.