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It’s easy to be chill when you’re not the one being disrespected.
It’s also easy to be chill when you don’t interpret every slightly contentious interaction as being disrespected.
It’s easy to be chill when you don’t consider other people’s experiences to be valid.
pfft, I reserve the right to judge that a person’s interpretation of reality is incorrect in some way, thanks.
Your interpretation of reality is wrong in its entirety.
Did you know that sometimes you can choose not to reply to people on the internet?
Pfft then why didn’t you exercise that ability yourself?
I know this isn’t relevant to the post, but why do you need a doctor note for ‘any’ amount of weeks?
Fascist country. Controlling women fascistically. Old white guys who take pills to make their decrepit dicks work on their mistresses and aids and probably children are very concerned about “Gods will” when it comes to pregnancy and womens bodily autonomy.
Something something Margret Atwood.
The fact that you had to ask this question, proves how far we have fallen.
Someone doesn’t know something? How dare they!
For all you know that person could be a teenager.
The real problem would be if they didn’t have any interest in learning something they didn’t know about.
Its a low pressure, low oxygen, cramped environment that can complicate existing issues a lot more than some people realize.
I know of someone who died because a really bad freak ear infection ruptured at altitude and they bled out before the plane could land.
Its not like planes aren’t safe, its just that high risk individuals and situations need extra precautions.
I suppose the airlines want that for liability reasons. But I’m curious of ‘why’ pregnant women need a doctor’s note and not, say, folks with heart conditions then. Are there other groups that require some authority figure to give them medical permission to fly or do we only not trust pregnant women to listen to their doctors?
i would guess it’s less that they don’t trust them, and more that the doctor might do some extra tests to make sure that everything looks okay
heart conditions are typically a long-term thing; pregnancy is relatively short-term so there’s not a lot of time for people to get used to their situation, and there’s a lot to pay attention to
I thought I was going to die on a plane during depressurization once. My head literally felt like it was going to pop from my forehead and the pain was so immense I hunched over as to not cause panic in the aircraft.
It had happened a couple other times before this particular instance where the front of my head felt immense pressure during the planes decent. It also caused major headaches that lasted several days after the incident.
I looked it up after this event and made an immediate appointment with my doctor. Turns out some 10% of men can be affected by this where fluid builds up in your forehead “sinus pouches” I’ll call them, and during the planes decent it will depressurize. During depressurization this fluid will push against your brain. You can see a similar action with a half filled waterbottle during this time. They implode a little bit. That’s what was happening to my head.
My doctor prescribed me a nasal spray I need to take 30 minutes before take off to drain my sinus. It’s worked ever since.
Aw man you could’ve recreated the head exploding scene from scanners on a plane. That would’ve been the best prank ever.
Glad your head is unexploded though.
I wouldn’t even be mad if someone next to me popped. I’d be like holy shit I can’t believe I get two arm rests.
Jesus Christ. 😧
Probably because you might end up giving birth prematurely on the flight and they don’t wanna be liable for anything
The liability thing is definitely part of it but it ain’t good news for anyone involved if that thing decides to pop out over the Pacific.
It can literally affect the citizenship of the baby which I find so strange.
Only the Americas have jus soli really. Everywhere else it’s the parents’ citizenships that matters.
Interesting it lines up with the new world / old world concept.
If one of your parents are a US citizen, you are one no matter where you are born.
There are a bunch of regulations to make sure that in most cases a US citizen giving birth abroad, will grant their kid US citizenship. Although the law does not “guarantee” it like it does in most countries outside the Americas.
“Interestingly” the US does tend to apply jus sanguinis over jus soli in case of stateless people.
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What level of sexism is this where you speak on behalf of other imaginary people not in the conversation and say the horrible stuff yourself?
If you think someone is gonna say something terrible let them say it themselves. Putting yourself as the target does nothing but put the negative behaviour you don’t like into the world on their behalf.
I’m certain whatever they were trying to say is stupid sexist bullshit but I really cannot figure out that is.
I’m saying the sexists are fucking stupid and should stop hiding. They are so confident they are right, drop the show and just be honest….then watch the world eat them alive.
Heard the word “pregnant woman” and immediately thought of all women as sex objects to birth children only and then blamed it on that being what men think about them in the same thought.
Its like negging where you say something shitty, calculated to be awful but then act like it doesn’t matter because it was followed by a negation of it.
Ohhhhh.
Huh. Thanks.
No. I think people misunderstand what I posted. But I also understand it’s the internet and it’s more interesting to assume I’m a monster so whatever.
Sure. We don’t know you past this interaction. If you want to not be like that then act and choose different words. Don’t just excuse yourself as a monster to make it hurt less. Recognize how you said it was wrong and grow. Change is yours to choose.
*Punches themselves in the stomach
Ok now I’m at 0 weeks, can i get on the fucking plane?
I felt that woman’s rage building up just from reading that
Pregnancy rage is real, the agent was moments from a disaster and the bf knew it
Did the boyfriend need documentation proving he’s not 28-weeks pregnant?
To all my German fellas: This could literally be a Loriot sketch.
Definitely! Loriot would take this situation and at least double the awkwardness.
Honestly, if I were her I’d be at least a bit miffed at the boyfriend at that point, for undermining my righteous fury.
There’s only so much energy each of us has to fight the bullshit. You aren’t going to win every battle. So you need to pick your battles and spend your energy wisely. The post says they were getting on a plane. Travel in general comes with a lot of bullshit to navigate. If you use all your energy up and you haven’t even gotten on the plane yet, you’re going to be fully exhausted before you reach a safe recharge space and be in meltdown territory.
I think bf properly chose to defuse this situation because the lowly worker making the demands may have zero ability to influence policy and has their job at risk if they don’t follow it. Alternatively, the worker may be on a power trip and has the ability to use their power to fuck up your travel. Yes, you’ll get grounds for a complaint, maybe a refund, but that “justice” will arrive days, weeks or months after the offense. Your travel will have already been screwed, and it was totally avoidable by providing enough benign info to satisfy the worker.
I’m not saying “always capitulate”, but make sure the rage is worth the cost. If the jackboots show up at my front door asking me for information on activities of the gay couple that lives next door for no other reason than that they are gay, I’ll tell the jackboots to pound sand.
All of that is well and good. But I’d still spend a teeny tiny bit of energy to say “Next time let me handle it, or back me up. I need a partner, not a ref.” If mama’s going in, help or get out of the way.
That doesn’t sound like a good relationship to me. It seems like you’re letting your ego get in the way of a better life. My partner helps me do things and i help my partner do things. When my partner helps resolve a situation that was not going well for me, then I’m very happy they did
I’m not sure you’re reading their meaning the way OP intended it. From my read, it sounds like you’re saying that she (assuming she’s a woman because she called herself “mama”) is unable to determine when to pick her own battles, and/or is ill-equipped to fight her own battles alone. I don’t think that’s what you meant, but I don’t know why you assume that a woman who wants to take charge of her own problems is “letting (their) ego get in the way” and must not be in a good relationship? It seems a wild jump. The OP reminds me of my own relationships.
My partners know that when I decide to actually speak up about something, it’s because it’s something important to me. If they were to see me advocating for myself, they would never tell me I was letting my ego get in the way - they would cheer me on. They know that if I need help, I can ask them for it and reliably receive it. They don’t swoop in assuming I’m a damsel in distress that can’t fight my own battles.
I’d be more concerned if my partners didn’t implicitly trust me like that. I’d feel coddled, thinking they see me as a child they need to keep control of.
Each couple’s relationship’s are different. So that sounds like your advice would be compatible with your desired relationship.
I can assure you that what the boyfriend did in this example can be being “a partner”. Part of being a partner in my relationship is offering a “check” on a course of action. We do this for each other. If escalation is called for, we have to generally agree on it. When you escalate, you commit the other person to your cause (and the consequences). If the consequence in the above example would have been to screw up months worth of planning on a vacation before we even left the airport, that affects both people. It has to be worth it. In this situation, I agree with the boyfriend, it wasn’t worth the battle.
Everything that would ultimately be accomplished from escalating with the worker (and possibly facing immediate consequences) could still have been accomplished without escalating, including contacting the company and complaining. In a moment of passion many times that’s not clear. If one partner is thinking more clearly than the other in the moment, then it helps both if the clear headed one provides the “check”. In my relationship I’ve been in both roles, the checker and the checked. I love my partner for both.
I need a partner, not a ref.”
If my partner told me “[don’t be] a ref”, I’d probably nicely communicate “Don’t write a check you might require me to cash without my buy-in.”
None of this says your relationship or approach is wrong. There is no universal objective “right” or “wrong” in this one. You and I have different approaches, so the only way it would be “wrong” is if we are in a relationship together. From our differing opinions here, I think we’re both equally glad we’re not together.
None of this says your relationship or approach is wrong. There is no universal objective “right” or “wrong” in this one. You and I have different approaches, so the only way it would be “wrong” is if we are in a relationship together.
At no point did I suggest that right or wrong was of concern here, and your use of quotes is bizarre. I simply stated what I would do in that situation. I’m honestly not sure what the goal of your straw man is here.
I think we’re both equally glad we’re not together.
What an absolutely weird thing to say. Friend, I’ve never met you, have zero desire to interact with you further, and I have absolutely no idea why you feel the need to evaluate the degree to which you and I want to be together. I think you need a snack and a nap, then maybe go take a walk outside.
I think you need a snack and a nap, then maybe go take a walk outside
Don’t treat others like children just because you don’t like the conversation. It makes you look less mature by comparison, not more.
If you invite conversations in an open forum don’t be surprised if people respond.
At no point did I suggest that right or wrong was of concern here, and your use of quotes is bizarre.
I don’t mean to go grammary-Nazi on you, but I wanted to give you this information to communicate I had no intention of trying to offend you or strawman you here.
I believe you concluded that I used reason #1, when I wasn’t:
“1 To quote a source directly or indirectly - Direct quotes use the exact words from a source and require quotation marks. Indirect quotes restate or paraphrase those words or ideas and don’t require quotation marks.”
In fact, I was using reason #5:
“5 To discuss words - If you want to discuss a word, phrase, or letter in writing without using its intended meaning, set it apart with quotation marks. Depending on the styling format, some writers alternatively use italics without quotation marks.”
I used this because “right” and “wrong” have subjective meanings, and putting them in quotes meant I was intentionally avoiding adding my own subjective values of those words to the discussion. I was recognizing, in text, that different audiences can and will land on either side of an argument, and in this case there isn’t one side that is objective because its subjective to each of us.
What an absolutely weird thing to say. Friend, I’ve never met you, have zero desire to interact with you further, and I have absolutely no idea why you feel the need to evaluate the degree to which you and I want to be together.
I wasn’t evaluating our degree to be together. We are talking about relationship style preferences. The style you communicated is not one that everyone is compatible with. The style I communicated is is also not one that everyone is compatible with. There’s nothing wrong with either of our relationship styles. Should two completely rando people that neither of us know each hold the relationship style we each hold, they would be incompatible with each other, and neither would be wrong. They would just be wrong for the relationship style of each other. That is all I was saying in that text.
I was hoping the story ended with “my usually cheerful unbothered bf told them politely but firmly to eat shit” but he just instantly capitulates to the bureaucracy? Wack
Getting on the airplane is way more important than feeling superior to a bottom-rung worker.
They’re allowed to arrest you for something the completely made up. Probably not the safest hill to die on.
I think meant agent like flight attendant, not like air marshall, although I would be okay with giving them this authority.
Anyone who works at an airport can call security on you and get you arrested. My ex with anger issues started going off on someone at the front desk and we almost didn’t make a flight.
That’s absolutely ridiculous. He was doing his part in trying to keep her calm and trying to help defuse the situation. To be mad that he noticed a problem starting to boil over and handled it is insane. A partner helps in exactly these situations. Its not us vs ourselves. The issue can be addressed after. Why risk getting thrown off
Yeah in most places airlines have zero obligation to actually put you on a flight. If you start to raise your voice, act upset, cause a scene, it nearly always results in your ticket(s) getting cancelled and airport security getting called. Don’t let a braindead airline agent ruin your travel plans, it’s not worth it
we as a unit must put up a united front
Nah they can kick you off at the “Captain’s discretion”
I know, it’s really annoying when you just want war and someone helps you out to fix it all
Hey, you look pregnant … are you?
I want a gf who would punch her after the "24"remark.
Oh I’m sure they exist. You’ll probably find them on the “no fly list” though.
that airline agent would have tasted my fist so quick
I use “are you calling me a liar?” which is probably more effective in the UK than the US.
I ain’t calling you a truther
Given what passes for a “truther” nowadays, I’d be more than happy to hear that 🙏
Yeah no that definitely doesn’t work in the US.
In recent years there’s been an anti-Karen sentiment going around in the country, so these days any sort of pushback from the public usually gets immediately shut down, even if the customer isn’t actually being a Karen. Today’s service industry employees have zero fucks to give.
holy shit i noticed that… every customer service agent just assumes you’re lying and trying to scam them; there’s no benefit of the doubt… prove it or shut up and stop wasting company time
what ever happened to having a reputation for good customer service being a positive business attribute in and of itself?
That seems specific to the west, in Japan and Korea, I had separate incidents where the subway ate my ticket or money and the guy asks how much it was, opens tge machine, and grabs that ticket/bill, and gives it to me, doesn’t check a camera or the machines history or anything.
Ugh I HATE that phrase. I’m American and any time someone says that to me I just want to reply “no, I just think you are ignorant” but I know that would just get me punched.
Also in the “factual but getting punched” category of responses would be: “No, I’m not saying you’re a liar. You don’t need to be a liar to still be in the wrong.”
I’ve also heard people use it who weren’t lying, they were simply incorrect, and conflating those two concepts.
Sometimes they’re even just mistaken.
Someone saying that is looking for a fight. I just say yes and try to block the punch.
I’ve never met anyone who used that phrase who wasn’t also clearly a dipshit.
That whole requiring documentation to say you don’t need documentation is so absolutely drunken with power maliciousness.
Good for her bf. I would’ve been like “she said she was 24 weeks not 28, she doesn’t need a note.”
I would have said “I’m also less than 28 weeks pregnant. Do I need a note too?”
