• Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]English
    120•2 years ago

    Last week I was at the movies by myself to see Barbie and a big group of Hexbear users sat behind me and in the middle of the movie I opened up a can of beans to eat and one of the hexbear users yelled ‘Hey everybody, this nerd is eating beans!’ and the whole theater laughed at me. Thats why i will always hate you.

  • flan [they/them]English
    76•2 years ago

    Because they just want to meme about China Bad and Russian Bots all day long

  • @[email protected]English
    25•2 years ago

    I find the memes funny but the image abuse is obnoxious. I’m not a big fan of defederation so I always end up defending you guys but seriously, wtf?

      • @[email protected]English
        10•2 years ago

        Nonetheless, I only see one instance abusing of the bug. It’s definitely lemmy growing pains though. I’m hoping some instance just outright ban images and emoticon, I always hated them. The little 🤣🤣🤣 always screamed teenage bullshit to me.

        • HornyOnMain [she/her]English
          60•2 years ago

          The reason we’re the only instance that do it is because the glitch is in how the fork of lemmy that hexbear (and no other instance runs on) interacts with mainline Lemmy instances. No other instance actually has this glitch.

          In general though it’s become common etiquette to spoiler the larger emojis now (at least outside of local hexbear comms)

          for example:

          LIB im-vegan powercry-1

            • HornyOnMain [she/her]English
              47•2 years ago

              Yeah, the people who maintain the code on our fork of lemmy are currently trying to fix the issue apparently, we didn’t realise it was a problem at first during testing because the test instance was defederated so there was no one from a different instance to look at it and go, “hey wait a minute, these emojis look giant to me”

              • nickwitha_k (he/him)English
                21•2 years ago

                Is the fork source in a public repo? I’d really like to see the delta there and try to get some features cherry-picked to the main Lemmy codebase.

        • Awoo [she/her]English
          44•2 years ago

          We’re not abusing “the bug” we’re just using our instance the way our instance is meant to work. We have a lot of emotes and we use them. There’s probably like 600 of them at this point.

          It’s not our fault they show up incorrectly on other servers, it’s lemmy. The reason you don’t see other instances doing it is because everywhere else on lemmy has existed for like 3 weeks and has absolutely no unique culture yet. We’ve been here 3 years and have had considerably more time to build up the Hexbear community lore, emote collection, etc etc.

  • @[email protected]English
    39•2 years ago

    I don’t hate you. But I can empathize with others who find your abrasiveness off-putting. Someone said edgy like atheists and, as a lifelong atheist who hates religion, I understood what they meant / seemed fair to me. Let’s all have a beer.

  • barrbaric [he/him]English
    149•2 years ago

    It’s because we’re loud, incredibly active, argumentative, and most importantly we are generally speaking unified. Yes there are differences, but compare the pushback when a hexbear posts something pro-china vs when someone else posts something anti-china. We’ll get maybe 2-3 responses, all of which will immediately get dogpiled anyway. They’ll get 10 of us. We also all upvote the takes we all agree on, so much so that it looks like vote manipulation. No other group on the fediverse has that type of unity, even if they broadly agree with each other.

    Also the giant emojis probably don’t help lol.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]English
      32•2 years ago

      and most importantly we are generally speaking unified.

      It’s been a while since I did a sectarianism. I have a good reason to later today though pika-pickaxe

    • dRLY [none/use name]English
      61•2 years ago

      TL;DR first because I got rant-y

      Hexbear and Lemmygrad formed to be leftist first and individual interests second. So your take is spot-on. I also think that they get mad that Hexbear doesn’t have the option to downvote. So they don’t get the satisfaction of the power trip and makes them even more pissed off. lol

      The funny thing about people thinking we are assholes is that between here, lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad.ml I have found this instance to be the most chill. I find myself more concerned about getting attacked on lemmy.ml for even trying to say something that is not in-line with the western media narrative. I am a bit worried about getting jumped on for misunderstanding or having a bad take on lemmygrad. However I have begun to be better at thinking about how I say/ask things when replying to posts. Which I think is overall a good thing and have better accepted that even if I may disagree with folks, that it is better to learn more about those things over all.

      For all the shit that I am learning and seeing that gets said about here and lemmygrad. Those folks on lemmy.ml and the other instances are just beyond quick to just outright refuse to take a moment to consider that they are not questioning shit at all. Just super binary “good or evil.” Even if they agree that their “side” has historically both lied and done super fucked up shit. It is still unwavering “still much better than insert whatever shit they think anti-capitalism has done to so many people.” They completely misunderstand that us “tankies” are just dumb motherfuckers brainwashed into thinking that AES nations never did anything wrong. It also doesn’t help that even “progressive” liberals are so firmly conserned about being super slightly left of dead centre. To go around talking shit about how the hammer and sickle should be treated the same as the Nazi swastika. Still believing that the US is the reason we won the war. Nor do they realize how the Cold War was completely kicked off by the western allies renegging on promises made to the USSR for helping recoup. That the massive build-up of nukes was due to our own war hawks lying about the supposed rapid build-up of anything from the Soviets. Cuba and USSR are always the “war mongers” for putting nukes on Cuba, but the US’s shit in Europe/Turkiey.

      • barrbaric [he/him]English
        80•2 years ago

        Just before federation, when people were claiming that hexbears were a bunch of unrestrained feral super-posters and that we were going to change the fediverse, I thought that a lot of it was just people hyping themselves up. Only now do I realize that we are in fact the strongest posters on the fediverse because of our solidarity with each other. fidel-salute indeed

    • temptest [any]English
      33•2 years ago

      The giant emotes (which generates a lot of animosity when combined with the dubiously low PPB-trigger-threshold of some of our posters when on other instances) are solvable issue. If the devs were so inclined, they could just run imagemagick over them automatically to make downsized copies.

      I’m not necessarily saying they should, I’m just saying they could.

  • @[email protected]English
    48•2 years ago

    I have no horse in this race, but I genuinely would like to know what all the drama is about? I’m new to this app and I’m not sure what the problem is when everybody can filter I think their own instances that they would like to see. I did not find anything racist or at least I haven’t seen anything or anything homophobic or calling for acts of violence, so I’m not sure why you guys are being defederated. Apologies. If this is something that has already been discussed. I’m just trying to keep myself informed.

    • ElGosso [he/him]English
      23•2 years ago

      We have an extremely aggressive site culture from our origins on Reddit when people who didn’t agree with our general political tendencies would wander into our subreddit and act like obnoxious smuglords once they realized what we’re about. Rather than outright ban these people, we would bully them until they left - and even though we have somewhat stricter moderation on this site than we did in the subreddit, the viciousness stayed. We also have an extremely online sense of humor, given that we were founded to discuss a left-wing twitter podcast, which can make the general tone dense and impenetrable for newcomers.

      calling for acts of violence

      FWIW the subreddit was actually banned because it said that John Brown killing slave owners was good which Reddit called “promoting violence.”

    • HornyOnMain [she/her]English
      20•2 years ago

      I did not find anything racist or at least I haven’t seen anything or anything homophobic

      We’re very strictly against any form of bigotry on this site and have a strong culture of mocking and bullying bigots, we also have a slur filter that changes the slur to say “removed” so any user who tries to use slurs can’t (also iirc it instantly auto reports them to the mods with the slur they tried to use included in the report so that the mods can see what they were saying and react accordingly)

    • glans [it/its]English
      28•2 years ago

      literally nothing happened to incite the drama. the people on this instance used the fediverse in the way the software was designed for. the instance, which used to be not federated became federated like all the other ones… the drama was initiated prior to this even happening; just in anticipation of how bad it would be.

      it was a bunch of spiteful, ignorant, small minded name calling provoked by fantasies of the people who stirred it up. they are really afraid of leftists because they know they are wrong and don’t enjoy the feeling of being shown up. so they wanted to preempt this by doing red baiting to stir up a moral panic because that usually works pretty well.

    • Awoo [she/her]English
      98•2 years ago

      We’re socialists. That’s it.

      Everything they say about us revolves around them not wanting people to come here and potentially learn. In particular the nato dorks don’t want us influencing people into anti-nato positions because it’ll affect their ability to wage unlimited endless wars.

      As such they’ll say anything and everything about us, even some of the completely made up things like homophobia/racism, which is funny as we’re probably the strongest instance on the fediverse against that, going far far further than the liberals do on all social justice topics.

      It is what it is.

      You’re a trekkie. You like space communism. We want the same thing. That’s all we need to know about each other.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]English
      46•2 years ago

      I think it’s overblown. We’re annoying commies and that’s enough to make some libs mad.

      but also to be fair we do call for acts of violence regularly and with great gusto. it’s one of the main things i use the site for.