Agreed. Unfortunately, Lemmy also took a step back to 2010s reddit when it comes to tolerance and self-analysis too, apparently. Schumer is terrible but he’s terrible in a way that doesn’t have to be articulated as a slightly elaborated version of “that’s gay”

I agree, but I would much rather have an article stating such from any source that is not Jacobin tbh

What a fucking take lmao

“the blacks and the gays getting systemically purged from society doesn’t matter compared to the real stuff, things that personally impact me”

When I lived in rural areas basically the only sign of gay people was the pride merchandise put out by large corporations.

It doesn’t matter in cities that are full of open gay people, but the universal application of these initiatives means it ends up normalizing this stuff in areas that might otherwise not experience it, and for that alone it’s a problem that these kinds of things are going away.

It’s honestly kinda wild to me how many gay folks are so “I hate pride stuff!” these days tbh, but I guess that’s differing perspectives for you.

Fuck Tim Apple, but please do not ever utter the phrase “bad gay” again.

It’s clear that you care plenty about this stuff, I don’t think all that was meant as a disparaging thing.

But you shouldn’t paint gay rights movements as being a boondoggle inherently tied to liberal policy. It’s (presumably unintentionally) insulting, and definitely paints the picture that you don’t care, or that you’d rather side with someone that didn’t give a shit about us.

Yes.

Being able to be open about your identity is very important to trans people. This is an important element of people’s lives, insofar that even in the face of rejection by traditional society we tend to come out and just face the consequences of it - yes, that includes, for many, rejection by their families, housing and food insecurity, and many other things that are, in effect, downstream of the impacts of lack of acceptance. That’s the very reason why it’s so important to us. We make the conscious decision to seek acceptance knowing it is futile and in most cases results in these things. It’s spitting in the face of trans rights movements to try to insinuate that they should simply pretend to be someone else if it means getting food or shelter.

For most of us, that was already an option that we threw out because the cost was too great. To see people argue on our behalf that we should simply take a backseat so we can eat? Fuck that, we’ll figure it out ourselves if that’s supposed to be the cost.

Gay rights movements generally do not make demands in the form of food.

They do, however, ask for you to actually listen to the demographics you’re trying to talk over if you want to help them.

The fact that you frame “affirming your identity” as such a pathetic offering shows how little you think of LGBT folks in this context tbh.

Look, I get the anger, but keep your sentiment pointed in a way that doesn’t imply that gay people are the enemy soaking up valuable time and resources, or at least listen to us when we say we’re uncomfortable with you painting the symbols of our self-determination as cheap tokens to be eschewed from leftism if it wants to help people.

The rainbows aren’t hurting anyone.

What’s the problem you seem to have with gay rights here? Going out of your way to label that one party is supporting “rainbow ribbons” seems a little iffy considering all the trans people that are about to get systemically targeted by the right-wing that won an election basically on a smear campaign against us.

Bernie lost the popular vote in the primaries twice. It’s mostly white guys that want him, honestly, which isn’t a popular sentiment but it’s true.

He doesn’t speak to the problems of marginalized communities who make up a large portion of the Democratic base.

Yeah, me getting to use the bathroom is just a rhetorical distraction in the end.

Go back to your hole, .ml troll

…dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit

You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

In reality a not insignificant portion of them would probably vote for Trump to “own the libs” honestly.

She has a really checkered record wrt trans stuff altogether. I’m concerned.

She’s better than Trump but a significant step down from Biden in terms of most of the things I care about which makes her a concerning pick, combined with the fact that she performs worse in polling (if that was the main concern). I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned that this basically sealed the Dems’ loss.

I was tentatively optimistic about Starmer on some of those fronts after writing him off as a hack but yeah, recently he ranted about how trans women shouldn’t be allowed in bathrooms so…the grey area is gone, he just wants his party to be the Tories but painted a different color.

…my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.

Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It’s difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

…you realize MLK was talking about people like you that would rather throw your hands up and do nothing than help, right?

If Trump wins, minorities and LGBT folks are in danger. That’s on you. In the same way that white moderates are critiqued for sitting around and doing nothing in the civil rights era, people who are sitting around and doing nothing against the rise of fascism in that way because they don’t want to take the time to focus on who’s in danger are to blame. You are the modern white moderate.

Hey bloodfart, the only reason I can still have a job and access healthcare in a lot of places is because of Biden working to reverse Trump’s anti-trans stuff. I get that you feel all high and mighty telling people that folks like me don’t matter enough but this shit is kinda important to some of us.