It’s actually the other way around. Only a bad person would endorse and support a system of inconsistent unreliable wages. A system where one asshole customer can just fuck over their server. Why would you support such a harmful system? Because it benefits you, the customer? That doesn’t sound too ethical to me…
No, tipping encourages a system where servers don’t have consistent/reliable pay. They have no way of knowing what their income will be at the end of the month. And that makes things like paying rent tricky.
Part of my goal is making them quit and find a better job with a consistent income, even if outside the industry. This would positively benefit their life and the industry as a whole. This is what will end tipping and what anyone who disagrees with tipping culture should do.
If you’re serious about this: consider verbally and physically abusing your servers, lying about them to management, applying the methods outlined in the CIAs manual for disruption of organizations and even stoicastic violence.
Surely you could be doing more to hurt your server enough that they find a job you approve of!
For anyone reading this comment: if you don’t tip you’re a bad person exhibit a.
My goal is not to make all employees quit any and every job. I only want those unhappy with unreliable tip based income to quit, and I want them to communicate that with their employer.
If someone is happy with optional tipping, then I don’t want them to quit. But such a person should have no real problem with a $0 tip since they support optional tipping, right?
It must be so difficult to make the decision wether or not to tip then, since you need to extensively vet your server before even ordering.
That is of course unless you don’t make sure your server is unhappy with their tip based income and is communicating that with their employer before you don’t tip and are simply looking for a cover for your antisocial behavior.
Sorry, I don’t follow…can you clarify? I already pointed out that if someone were unhappy with optional tipping then they wouldn’t have any reason to be upset with someone deciding to tip $1000 or $20 or $0. That’s what optional means, having an option. So anyone who would be upset by an optional tip of $0 must be unhappy with their inconsistent tipped based income, obviously.
Because honestly it’s really not a hard decision at all, I just literally never tip.
Complaining about tipping culture and then giving money to the people who perpetuate it while shafting employees making $2.15/hr in an effort to end it is truly insane.
How the fuck am I supposed to know you make $2.15? And more importantly, why in the fuck would you ever agree to that?
A wage that low would literally be illegal in my (presumably more civilized) country where minimum wage is well over $12usd currently, servers included.
Do you think by not tipping you are improving the lives of those who depend on tips for their income? Do you think that by not tipping you are hurting the employer/ending tipping culture?
Lol what was the point of asking then? I thought at least you’d attempt to justify why you disagree with me if you did. But if you can’t justify your position, I guess I get it.
It’s actually the other way around. Only a bad person would endorse and support a system of inconsistent unreliable wages. A system where one asshole customer can just fuck over their server. Why would you support such a harmful system? Because it benefits you, the customer? That doesn’t sound too ethical to me…
Tipping only endorses helping your server live.
You made all that other shit up.
No, tipping encourages a system where servers don’t have consistent/reliable pay. They have no way of knowing what their income will be at the end of the month. And that makes things like paying rent tricky.
When not tipping doesn’t change anything, choosing not to tip doesn’t have any effect other than harming your server.
Part of my goal is making them quit and find a better job with a consistent income, even if outside the industry. This would positively benefit their life and the industry as a whole. This is what will end tipping and what anyone who disagrees with tipping culture should do.
If you’re serious about this: consider verbally and physically abusing your servers, lying about them to management, applying the methods outlined in the CIAs manual for disruption of organizations and even stoicastic violence.
Surely you could be doing more to hurt your server enough that they find a job you approve of!
For anyone reading this comment: if you don’t tip you’re a bad person exhibit a.
My goal is not to make all employees quit any and every job. I only want those unhappy with unreliable tip based income to quit, and I want them to communicate that with their employer.
If someone is happy with optional tipping, then I don’t want them to quit. But such a person should have no real problem with a $0 tip since they support optional tipping, right?
It must be so difficult to make the decision wether or not to tip then, since you need to extensively vet your server before even ordering.
That is of course unless you don’t make sure your server is unhappy with their tip based income and is communicating that with their employer before you don’t tip and are simply looking for a cover for your antisocial behavior.
Only bad people don’t tip: exhibit b
Sorry, I don’t follow…can you clarify? I already pointed out that if someone were unhappy with optional tipping then they wouldn’t have any reason to be upset with someone deciding to tip $1000 or $20 or $0. That’s what optional means, having an option. So anyone who would be upset by an optional tip of $0 must be unhappy with their inconsistent tipped based income, obviously.
Because honestly it’s really not a hard decision at all, I just literally never tip.
Doctoring up your selfish position is one thing but to make it sound like a service is insane.
Agreeing to work for tips and then complaining about is truly insane.
Complaining about tipping culture and then giving money to the people who perpetuate it while shafting employees making $2.15/hr in an effort to end it is truly insane.
How the fuck am I supposed to know you make $2.15? And more importantly, why in the fuck would you ever agree to that?
A wage that low would literally be illegal in my (presumably more civilized) country where minimum wage is well over $12usd currently, servers included.
Do you think by not tipping you are improving the lives of those who depend on tips for their income? Do you think that by not tipping you are hurting the employer/ending tipping culture?
Yes, I do think so 100% to both questions.
That is the most preposterous thing I’ve heard in quite some time. So you’re profoundly ignorant, unbelievably short sighted, or a troll.
Lol what was the point of asking then? I thought at least you’d attempt to justify why you disagree with me if you did. But if you can’t justify your position, I guess I get it.
If you don’t know why I disagree with you, then you haven’t actually read a single thing I’ve written. It is right there for you to read.
You haven’t written anything that supports your point, really.