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  • peopleproblems
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    32 years ago

    wait hold on a second, don’t I have a reasonable expectation that my non public files aren’t public?

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Not according to Dropbox ToS. You already agree to allow them to use your materials for marketing and research purposes. This is only a minor step further.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      Peak comedy is someone believing convicted felon Kim Dotcom is going to treat your data or privacy with an ounce of respect.

      • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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        52 years ago

        Reductionist. He is a ‘felon’ because he hosted a service that was used heavily for piracy. Not because he was robbing banks or shooting people.

        • @[email protected]
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          Guess you forgot the other 20+ charges Kim Dotcom plead guilty to over the decade before he decided to host.

          Embezzlement ✅

          Selling stolen property ✅

          Data espionage ✅

          Who the fuck takes up for this moron? He’s obviously a shit weasel for life.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom

          • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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            Had no idea about earlier charges.

            Article with sources that goes into much more detail: https://web.archive.org/web/20230115112142/https://www.wired.com/2012/01/kim-dotcom/

            Some hilarious highlights:

            He bought stolen phone card account information from American hackers. After setting up premium toll chat lines in Hong Kong and in the Caribbean, he used a “war dialer” program to call the lines using the stolen card numbers—ringing up €61,000 in ill-gained profits.

            In 1998, he was convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud, 10 counts of data espionage, and an assortment of other charges. He received a two-year suspended sentence—because, at just 20, he was declared “under age” at the time the crimes were committed.

            In January 2001, LetsBuyIt was close to bankruptcy. Schmitz bought 375,000 euros in the company’s shares — and then announced he was preparing to invest an additional 50 million Euros. The news hit the market, and the stock price of LetsBuyIt surged. Schmitz cashed out, making a profit of €1.5 million.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      I only wish you could manage files in the backend without going through the web GUI. So slow having to manually upload everything through there.

  • Doll_Tow_Jet-ski
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    22 years ago

    Dafuq…
    I found this in my settings. I never know if the option is on or off… It’s on, right?

    • Seraph
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      22 years ago

      When you enable it it says below that “do not sell or share is now active”

      • Doll_Tow_Jet-ski
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        12 years ago

        That message is not visible for me. It just shows my email address and the option to save preferences or to exit

  • @[email protected]
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    PSA: use Cryptomator if u gonna use public clouds

    Also: public cloud + cryptomator > e2ee cloud (Proton etc)

    • Star
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      32 years ago

      What’s this exactly? Would you mind an explanation? I would like my files to only be my files.

    • Tiger Jerusalem
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      52 years ago

      An interesting note: OneDrive really dislikes that, it reads your encrypted files as ransomware and asks you to say they’re OK every time you upload something new. It’s really annoying.

      • @[email protected]
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        Then stop using it and go to Sync > Dropbox > Box (not 100% if it works for Box), way better

        Of course OneDrive hates it, you’re cucking Microsoft from access to your cleartext files.

        I can’t haz private files? 🥺

        —Microsoft, definitely

  • JohnEdwa
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    How unsurprising, a headline that technically doesn’t lie, but also gives a completely misleading impression. At least it has been fixed since: the current, accurate one is “Dropbox spooks users with new AI features that send data to OpenAI when used

    Because your files only get sent to the AI search service if you use the AI search feature, which it tells you will send the one specific file you are asking the AI to analyze to OpenAi. Which, you know… Duh?

    The third-party AI toggle is only turned on to give all eligible customers the opportunity to view our new AI features and functionality, like Dropbox AI. It does not enable customers to use these features without notice. Any features that use third-party AI offer disclosure of third-party use, and link to settings that they can manage. Only after a customer sees the third-party AI transparency banner and chooses to proceed with asking a question about a file, will that file be sent to a third-party to generate answers. Our customers are still in control of when and how they use these features

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      Out of curiosity, do you (or anyone else reading this) have a screencap of the “third-party AI transparency banner” that the dropbox rep said is shown when using the functionality in question?

      I did a quick ddg search for it, but couldn’t find an example. I’d like to reserve judgement till I see the full verbiage of what is/was shown.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    102 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In its FAQ, Dropbox contradicts this claim, saying, “We won’t let our third-party partners train their models on our user data without consent.”

    In July, the company announced an AI-powered feature called Dash that allows AI models to perform universal searches across platforms like Google Workspace and Microsoft Outlook.

    Still, multiple Ars Technica staff who had no knowledge of the Dropbox AI alpha found the setting enabled by default when they checked.

    It also says, “Only the content relevant to an explicit request or command is sent to our third-party AI partners to generate an answer, summary, or transcript.”

    Log into your Dropbox account on a desktop web browser, then click your profile photo > Settings > Third-party AI.

    On that page, click the switch beside “Use artificial intelligence (AI) from third-party partners so you can work faster in Dropbox” to toggle it into the “Off” position.


    The original article contains 518 words, the summary contains 147 words. Saved 72%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Only related to an explicit request. And yet to fulfill that request “tax documents related to business Y” will require that the API have a catalog of that data aggregated already to fulfill that request

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    On a side note, I love that article image that they used. The contrast it’s trying to portray is so chef’s kiss

  • Rentlar
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    Hey I was thinking about cloud backups. I gotta encrypt important files then if dropbox is gonna have AI go through them at will. My alternative was just copying stuff to a hard drive and shoving it in a safety deposit box…

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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      12 years ago

      Depending on how far away the box is, this might be the most efficient possible alternative.

      If it takes you an hour to get the drive and plug it in, and the drive is 14TB, you’re looking at a download speed of 31,000 megabits per second.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      NAS + cloud backup is the way to go. Any NAS software worth its salt can do E2EE backup with any old cloud backup solution.

      Definitely not for the faint of heart though. If you don’t actively enjoy fiddling then there aren’t many good options. Maybe icloud if you trust Apple to not de-platform you.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Depending on how important those files are to you the safe deposit box might be a good “plan A”.