I’m not kidding. This will make Gen-Zers vote for Trump. All he has to say is he’ll reverse the ban. He’s already announced that he opposes this bill and that this only supports Facebook.

Biden and the Democrats are so fucking insane. I do not understand it. They want to lose all support with every fucking base they have.

I’ll never stop being on TikTok.

  • MineDayOff [none/use name]
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    I’m an old Millennial and I don’t even understand tick tock. This is an absolutely dumbass move and I don’t understand it either

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      I’m X-ennial. Tiktok is just a good algo and a snappy interface. Its the closest anything has gotten to channel-flipping since before cable went digital. Just flip until something cool is on, and flip away if it gets boring

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        That’s actually a good way to describe short form content. You flip though the videos until you get something cool, watch a bunch of them from said cool person, and then leave or watch something else.

      • MineDayOff [none/use name]
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        Yeah I bet it’s entertaining. I’ve kind of drifted from social media other than places like here. I just don’t understand the motivation with this other than China bad.

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    It’s very very telling that the bill doesn’t force tik tok to change any of its supposedly unacceptable data harvesting capabilites, it just forces them to sell it to an American owned company so we can reap the benefits instead of them.

    Unfortunately, as I’ve literally seen stated verbatim multiple times on reddit, people don’t care if governments are controlling social media apps to scrape data for profit and control and moderate content as long as its the US government doing the scraping and controlling.

      • Schadrach
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        I’m sorry the foreign adversary that controls a popular social media app isn’t white.

        • plinky [he/him]
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          please type in:

          russia was correct in banning facebook and twitter

          to verify you are human

          • Schadrach
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            LOL. “russia was correct in banning facebook and twitter”. Feel better now?

            They could justify that policy the same way - we are a foreign adversary of them and having our companies control their social media could lead to the same sort of problem for them, even if our government doesn’t have it’s fingers dug into our companies in quite the same way as the CCP does with Chinese companies.

            If they’re going to do this TikTok ban bill, they should cast the net a bit wider - it’s be nice if it hits Tencent by accident.

            • plinky [he/him]
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              you’re consistent, a rare sight.

              And us government absolutely does have its fingers up to facebook and twitter asshole.

              It’s fascinating to see how freedom of commerce (when you can’t compete) goes out of a window and libs all just fall in line. Tiktok USA already was populated by usa natsec and it people, so it’s just forcing to sell profitable business cause you need them monies and future control

            • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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              even if our government doesn’t have it’s fingers dug into our companies

              Do you work for the NSA or something? The US government doesn’t even hide the fact that that’s the case.

              • Schadrach
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                Read the rest of that sentence. The difference between how the US and CCP have their hands in private companies is like the difference between fingering and fisting.

          • Schadrach
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            Eh, that’s one of those things that’s going to happen regardless of which candidate wins. Israel is basically our only consistent ally in the Middle East, so we’re going to play nice with them regardless of who wins.

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              There’s a difference between continuing the status quo, and what Biden is currently doing, even fucking Reagan once told Israel to back down. Pretty ambivalent response about your guy subverting congress to help in an ethnic cleansing.

              Joe Biden is literally to the right of most everyone in the US vis a vis Israel, so there’s a non zero chance he is genuinely worse than Trump.

              The senator – Biden – said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.

              Also, he doesn’t HAVE to be doing this. You get that, right? Many voters are telling him to stop, some of the legislators in his own party are telling him to stop. He could end this with a phone call tonight. That he does not, and that his opponent would likely continue this, is not ‘a wash’, it is damning.

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            We’re not at war with them, but they are certainly a foreign adversary. Much like Russia in that regard, we haven’t been at war with Russia since we tried to support anti-Bolsheviks back in 1918 but they are definitely a foreign adversary or else that whole Cold War thing was really weird.

            • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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              I agree. The entire world should nationalize all American owned assets due to ongoing CIA bullshit. I’m sorry that the national foreign adversary is the US.

            • Egon [they/them]
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              So you agree? The reason for this ban is not public good, but merely to protect imperialist interests

        • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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          There is quite literally nothing China could do, even in your wildest fantasies about how nefarious they are, to affect your life in any way using TikTok algorithm data

          You’re simply just engaging in McCarthyist paranoia

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    I finally broke down and got Tiktok a month ago, just to follow what’s going on in Gaza. Figures.

  • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    It’s clear the objectives here are to force a purchase of TikTok so that the state can:

    • (A) reap the private profits
    • (B) install a more cooperative administration so they can:
      • (1) gain backdoor access to its data and get easy warrantless searches of American’s online activity
      • (2) install a moderation / community safety lead who aligns with state interests (similar to ex-cia agents being employed at Facebook, Google, and Reddit) to try and shape the content on the platform, likely to be more bourgeois in character.

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    These are definitely bipartisan goals. TikTok has proven itself over the past few years as a kind of gorilla journalism vehicle, by intention or not. Some of the people posting on TikTok likely wouldn’t even consider themselves “journalists” by any standard; however, the reality is they are. If someone is posting video of an unfolding event live, from a boots-on-the-ground perspective, they are performing a kind of journalism.

    The TikTok algorithm has this uncanny ability (and at times manual ability) to catapult a video in front of nearly everyone on the platform. That kind of exposure to these unfolding events has steadily eroded the base that the mass market media has been sitting on for decades, in a way that no other platform has done before.

    I have no doubt that this will pass. Their gross attempts at trying to spin this as some kind of security threat or as the ghoul good-morning has put it “not an attempt to ban TikTok. It’s an attempt to make TikTok better. Tic-Tac-Toe. A winner. A winner” will slide off the younger generations. To most in that demographic it will appear for what it is, a transparent and patronizing attempt to maintain American hegemony, and nothing more.

    Make no mistake, when this is passed, you will have your speech on that platform curtailed. You will see the algorithm change to support a more western, bourgeois narrative. American capital will walk away with the reward. You will be left holding the bag. You will see the state execution of TikTok in the town square.

    Every accusation is projection, this is no different.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    The bill, dubbed the “Protecting Americans From Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act,”

    smh, so close to PAFFACACA, which is non-sense, but sounds like a good onomatopoeia for this type of bill

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    Are they insane or is the whole two-party thing a big theater play and they’re taking on the “bad cop” role? Or the stick, as in carrot and stick. Or the “heel” and the “face” of kayfabe. I just feel like they have to know what they’re doing. All those teams of people working on campaigns and policies and stuff. Right?

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      321 year ago

      i think they haven’t had a serious conversation with a tech user in the 21st century that wasn’t libbed out the asshole and filtered through bad metaphor.

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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      171 year ago

      99% of the people working on campaigns are young 20 and 30-somethings who are idealistic and no where near the rooms where these kinds of decisions are made. Maybe senior advisors to Biden’s campaign and senior staff at the DCCC and DSCC get a say, and they’re all fucking ghouls

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      571 year ago

      The US is just a nation of “good cops” and “bad cops.” The good cops will politely ask you to vote for them, support their policies. When you refuse or ask why or ask if they could do a better job, they’ll just shake their heads and say “I tried to help. But it looks like we’re doing it the hard way” and walk away for the bad cop to come in and beat you half to death.