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@solo@slrpnk.net to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish • 1 year ago

Louisiana becomes 1st state to require the Ten Commandments be posted in classrooms

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Louisiana becomes 1st state to require the Ten Commandments be posted in classrooms

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Louisiana will become the first state to require that public universities and K-12 schools display the Ten Commandments in every classroom after the Senate voted overwhelmingly to push forward new
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  • cum
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    Name and shame the religious extremist who passed this and ban them from office

    Ask them how they’d feel about requiring children to wear hijabs and all of the sudden they’ll understand how everyone feels about their fascist laws lol

    • @xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works
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      Nah, they’ll just think Christians good, Muslim bad

    • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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      The woman who pushed for this said she didn’t care about Atheists or Muslims.

  • Amoxtli
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    Separation of church and state is Christianity. Human rights are Christianity. If you are a communist, you are a Christian. Christian communism - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

    History of the Church and State - Google Search - https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=history+of+the+church+and+state

    Separation of Church & State History (U.S. National Park Service) - https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/church_state_historical.htm

    Separation of church and state - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

    Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind Hardcover – September 6, 2019 https://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Making-Western-Tom-Holland/dp/1408706954

    Friedrich Nietzsche - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche

    If you are anti-Christian, stop acting like one.

    • Your friendly Googler.
    • Aisteru
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      8•1 year ago

      What in the name of tarnation?

      • Amoxtli
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        Low effort comments are automatically blocked.

        • Your friendly Googler.
    • @Apollo42@lemmy.world
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      3•1 year ago

      You are definitely highly regarded.

  • The Dark Lord ☑️
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    The Satanic Temple has entered the chat

    • toiletobserver
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      42•1 year ago

      Conferencing in the ACLU

  • @nutsack@lemmy.world
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    That’s pretty smart The United States is a place for smart people

  • @TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world
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    Post them in Hebrew, to be historically accurate.

  • FlashMobOfOne
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    “The purpose is not solely religious,” Sen. Jay Morris, R-West Monroe, told the Senate. Rather, it is the Ten Commandments’ "historical significance, which is simply one of many documents that display the history of our country and foundation of our legal system.”

    Only two of them are actually law: Thou shalt not murder and thou shalt not steal.

    This is all about religion, and they’re going to get away with it. We’d be better off if our legal codes were based on the seven tenets instead.

    • toiletobserver
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      18•1 year ago

      Hail Satan! or not… I’m not your boss, do whatever

      • @midnight_puker@sh.itjust.works
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        Hail Satan, and hail yourself!

    • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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      Flip it around on them, and say that if the Ten Commandments are so important, why they support Trump, who regularly breaks them.

      • FlashMobOfOne
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        Because the Lord works in mysterious ways, or some other dumb shit excuse.

        • @Cybermonk_Taiji@r.nf
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          Imperfect vessels! Ineffable designs!!

          Who am I kidding, they can’t even use flowery language in their lies anymore.

    • sqw
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      we make exceptions for even the murdering and stealing.

      • FlashMobOfOne
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        All the time, and especially for cops. (It’s called ‘qualified immunity’ and ‘civil forfeiture’ instead of murdering and stealing, but it’s the same thing.)

    • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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      Not even two, maybe one and a half as it depends a lot on who you are and whom you’re stealing from. And you can even argue on murder too

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        https://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

        If I linked 1/3rd of the list of times the Bible condones murder it would be removed as spam.

    • Carighan Maconar
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      America! Land of the free*!

      *: Unless you meant freedom of religion. You better not! We’ll sue/burn/shoot/jesus you if you do! Ultraconservative Christianity or death!

      • AceCephalon
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        Wait, what’s getting jesus’d…?

        Oh, I did not think of the implications of making that a verb.

      • @garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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        *unless you also meant freedom of expression or freedom of bodily autonomy

  • @cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
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    Inbred degenerates.

    • nomad
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      I thought that’s the people in Alabama? Louisiannna are the swamp people no?

      • @Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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        There’s plenty of overlap.

  • @Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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    Does it say which ten commandments?

    • @nexguy@lemmy.world
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      1. Thou shalt not make a sandwich while at a stop light
      • @TodaviaTyler@lemmy.world
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        1. Thou shalt indicate and check thy rear view mirrors before changing lanes.
        • @Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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          But I have a BMW

          • @Naz@sh.itjust.works
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            In which case you’re exempt from the law, Blind Man Wagon.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        1. Thou shalt not show up to church just to eat all the Jeez-Its and drink all the wine, then awkwardly leave after drunkenly asking the pastor’s daughter if she wants to bang in the belfry
      • @Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
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        Even if you’re really hungry? Or say it’s like a really really tasty sandwich. There’s got to be some wiggle number right.

  • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    Oh no. That was Kentucky. Notably they don’t have the ten commandments in their classrooms for some weird reason. I guess we’re going to find out if that SCOTUS ruling still applies.

  • @oji@lemmy.world
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    Thou shall not pass

  • @niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    On the one hand, you have the anti-science, anti-reason, bible-thumping retrograde assholes.

    On the other, you can bet that these same bible-thumping assholes break many of the very same ten commandments on a regular basis.

    Finally, they could have posted something from the Gospels, from the lips of Jesus himself such as “love thy neighbor” and “turn the other cheek”, but noooo…

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    Thou shalt suck my dick

    • @azimir@lemmy.ml
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      I’m not entirely sure of your translating skills, but I’m board with the results. Will you be doing the whole bible, or just the fun bits?

      • runeko
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        Subscribe.

  • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    violating the constitution by establishment of a religion

    • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      Louisiana is a real conservative religious armpit.

    • @woelkchen@lemmy.world
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      States can establish religions. Federal government can’t.

      Edit: Forgot that federal government can indoctrinate religion just fine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

      • Encrypt-Keeper
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        Not if the 14th amendment has anything to say about it. The incorporation doctrine of the 14th amendment applies the first 10 amendments to the state level as well.

        https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/incorporation_doctrine

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        States can establish religions. Federal government can’t.

        Over the last 150 years, the Supreme Court has pretty consistently found that the Bill of Rights applies to state as well as federal government: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

        See especially https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education:

        Everson v. Board of Education … was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court that applied the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to state law.

        • @woelkchen@lemmy.world
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          Mandatory “one nation under god” pledge in school classes disagrees that religion cannot be established.

          • @undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
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            Its also said “with liberty and justice for all” during a time where people kept literal slaves, without a hint of irony.

            The wording far too inconsistent and vague to be taken as literally as you’re attempting to take them.

          • @Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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            The pledge isn’t mandatory. By law, it has to be optional. Schools have gotten in trouble over it.

            • Flying Squid
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              Don’t bother. Every time you point out they say something that isn’t true, they change the subject.

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              There are so many cases of promoting Christianity by the US government, a few cherrypicked cases of “trouble” doesn’t disprove any of this.

              • “As a matter of historical tradition, the words ‘under God’ can no more be expunged from the national consciousness than the words ‘In God We Trust’ from every coin in the land, than the words ‘so help me God’ from every presidential oath since 1789, or than the prayer that has opened every congressional session of legislative business since 1787.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Legal_challenges

              Also, the US print religious indoctrination on their currency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

              • @Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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                I’m not arguing for religion to be in school. I’m just saying what’s there is already bad enough without making stuff up.

      • Flying Squid
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        That’s not how it works. State law can’t supersede federal law.

        • @woelkchen@lemmy.world
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          State law can’t supersede federal law.

          And Congress cannot pass laws on that. Constitution says so.

          • Flying Squid
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            That is an extremely narrow view of the First Amendment that goes against over two centuries of judicial precedent. Only a Clarence Thomas-level originalist would make such an argument.

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              That is an extremely narrow view of the First Amendment that goes against over two centuries of judicial precedent.

              Mandatory “one nation under god” pledge in school classes proves that establishing religion in the US is fine.

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                Those are literally not mandatory.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette

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                  Those are literally not mandatory.

                  Except when they are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Legal_challenges

                  • “the Pledge of Allegiance does not violate the rights of those who don’t believe in God and does not have to be removed from the patriotic message”

                  • “As a matter of historical tradition, the words ‘under God’ can no more be expunged from the national consciousness than the words ‘In God We Trust’ from every coin in the land, than the words ‘so help me God’ from every presidential oath since 1789, or than the prayer that has opened every congressional session of legislative business since 1787.”

  • @toynbee@lemmy.world
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    Did I misunderstand what “separation of church and state” meant?

    • @deathbird@mander.xyz
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      Depends. Are you a Louisiana Republican legislator?

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        Based on this ruling, I don’t think I’m qualified.

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      https://news.cornellcollege.edu/2019/11/ask-expert-separation-church-state-mean-americas-public-schools-report/

      Laws are only useful if successfully upheld in court. For some reason these never get challenged enough. Strange.

  • @boatsnhos931@lemmy.world
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    I thought the old testament was supposed to be irrelevant/null and void after Jeebus and the new new testament.

    • FlashMobOfOne
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      That only applies to the Old Testament passages that forbid usury, of course.

      I went through 18 years of being forced to go to church and never learned the word.

      Methinks that was purposeful.

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      Jesus: I came not to enforce the law, but to fulfill it.

      Paul: Well, what he AKSTUALLY meant is blah blah ceremonial law vs moral law blah blah sex is yucky, I mean sinful!

      I mean, it’s more complex than that, but Paul wrote like he understood the necessity of reproduction, but didn’t really comprehend what sexual urges actually feel like. He also wrote such long rambling sentences that he makes Charles Dickens look concise and clear.

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        Matthew was just trying to repair the damage to James, very likely.

        Paul: OT is gone except the parts I like

        James: OT is still there even oral parts drifting around it.

        A huge difference in how the religion should be practiced.

        Now if you were a writer 5 decades later and needed to redeem the image of James, while still showing that he was wrong, this could be a good way to do it. It wasn’t that James was super wrong, he just misunderstood something Jesus said at one point. Could happen to anyone.

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        Sounds like a cult based on fear and confusion

    • @Archelon@lemmy.world
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      Yeah but that doesn’t let us demonize minorities so we can radicalize the population into voting against their own interests for the benefit of the oligarchyyyyyy

      • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        I hate when people do things like demonize minorities.

        Just the other day I saw a member of $ethnicgroup helping someone they hardly knew. If even a member of $ethnicgroup could do that how much better the rest of us should act.

        Another time this woman of $ethnicgroup came to someone and begged for their child’s life. That someone said they were only here for his group not people of $ethnicgroup. So the woman groveled at his feet and called herself $ethnicslur until the man agreed to help.

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      But actually following Jesus’ teaching would be way too progressive. As far as I remember he was basically a hippie, advocating for love, helping each other out and the poor, and strongly against hate and capitalism. And he didn’t quite like the old traditions. So I think as a christian as of today you definitely need some counterbalance and some other book to point at to defend your conservatism, egoistcal behaviour and hate towards people who aren’t 100% like yourself.

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